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A dream to remember

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Posted Oct 29, 2007 at 1:23:48 PM
Subject: A dream to remember
Brothers, I've been having many dreams lately and I feel that some of them may have very profound spiritual messages. This is probably due to questioning God a lot. I've just had a lot of urges to read the bible and most nights I would find something delightful and meaningful. So now I would like to share with you my dream I had two nights ago: I was sitting on plain sand by the sea. The water was touching my feet. It was clear. All I could see was the sea in front of me. Everything around me seemed so "perfect". It was relaxing and just the "perfect" moment to ponder. Behind me was a rock. The rock was so bulky it covered the sun. It was like a mountain. And above the rock and everything that surrounded me was clear sky with thin white clouds. In this dream I couldn't see my face but I knew it was me. I was wearing white. But the strangest twist to this dream was - this man. He was sitting beside me. (My left side to be exact). I only saw the side of his face. He looked like my 3rd grade teacher. (Funny I could still remember his face). He was wearing glasses and white clothes too. But it wasn't completely white. It had yellow stripes tracing down the side of his shoulders. I think that's what I saw. This man was hugging me - and trying to insinuate me with a kiss. And he did manage to kiss me briefly. And that was the end of it. Everything around me made sense - except that man. I know that God is the rock, sand represents people - and I'm sitting on top of them; the sea was clear - spiritual words (pure and perfect) and I was touching it with my feet; I was wearing white - I must be following the truth. The man is what I don't understand. The clue that God might be telling me is Satan - trying to insinuate me. I'm actually very confused about this man in my dream ... and why it was my 3rd grade teacher - out of all the people in the world. I may sound a little cheesy asking you to interpret my dream, but it was my dad who suggested to ask you. Please let me know if you do understand what this means. And if it does have a spiritual meaning. Kindest regards, Sis. Rachelle Garcia
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sandra3102
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Posted: Oct 31, 2007 4:33:55 PM
Hello, Yes, God helps us interpret our dreams through His words. I also have the same perception of the meaning as you do. Now your question as to why your 3rd grade teacher was what bothered you is; I can see your innocence at that age as Satan sees you today. Unknown to him, God has given you the means (the great message of His words) to thwart whatever spiritual advances he might decant on you. Psa 56:11 In God have we put our trust: we will not be afraid what the enemy can do unto us. Lord, we have your vows upon us. You have delivered our soul from death, we know you will deliver our feet from falling that we may walk before You in the light of the living. God bless us all.
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art.barga
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Posted: Oct 31, 2007 8:40:34 PM
Brethren, It is God who interprets dreams through His words by comparing spritual things with spiritual just like He did with your dream. It is the spirit of God in you otherwise you will not recognize the "rock" to be Jesus Christ as written in: Romans 9:33 "As it is written, Behold, [u][b]I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence:[/b][/u] and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed" Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, [u][b]Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone[/b][/u];" "sand" as people as written in: 1 Samuel 13:5 "And the Philistines gathered themselves together to fight with Israel, thirty thousand chariots, and six thousand horsemen, and [u][b]people as the sand [/b][/u]which is on the sea shore in multitude: and they came up, and pitched in Michmash, eastward from Bethaven." "sea"(body of water) as word of God Isaiah 11:9 "They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, [u][b]as the waters cover the sea."[/b][/u] Ephesians 5:26 "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the[u][b] washing of water by the word, "[/b][/u] Indeed, you are walking with the truth(Jesus Christ) and you have emerged(sitting on top of the people-sand)from the natural men meaning you are not a captive anymore of the human doctrines. You were set free by the truth(Jesus Christ). The spirit of the Lord in you urges you to have a fellowship with the word and the spirit of the Lord is abounding in you. Now let the words of the Lord Jesus Christ interpret the man sitting at your left side who turned to be your third grade teacher. Those who are on the left are not of the Lord as written in: Matthew 25:32 "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:" Matthew 25:33 "And [u][b]he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left."[/b][/u] And those with yellow on their selves are unclean as written in: Leviticus 13:30 "Then the priest shall see the plague: and, behold, if it be in sight deeper than the skin; and [u][b]there be in it a yellow[/b][/u] thin hair; then [u][b]the priest shall pronounce him unclean[/b][/u]: it is a dry scall, even a leprosy upon the head or beard." The third connotes death in spirit, It is within this bound that God still dead and has risen not until the third day from being entombed as written in: 1 Corinthians 15:3 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, [u]how that Christ died for our sins [/u]according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that [u][b]he was buried, and that he rose again the third day[/b][/u] according to the scriptures: And you are dead when you are living by the flesh(natural man) as written in: Romans 8:13 "[u][b]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."[/b][/u] Romans 8:11 "But if [u][b]the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."[/b][/u] A teacher is supposed to be telling the truth as written in: 1 Timothy 2:7 "Whereunto [u][b]I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity"[/b][/u] With the foregoing verses, it appears in your dream that before recognizing the one true God someone who is respectable with the likes of scribes and pharisees is trying to entice you with the human doctrines regarding the truth. Evident that the spirit of the Lord is within you reveals this man as satan - an enemy of God. As for the "kiss", let me re-post excerpt from previous posting of Bro. Fil: "[b]Again Paul wrote the Christians of Philippi: Phi 2:1 "If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind." A "holy kiss" is the binding force of real Christians in their "spiritual walk." "Churches of Christ" is composed of two or more real believers enjoying the great message of the word, the "spiritual food" being fed by the Shepherd. This is what our Lord meant when He told His Disciples: Mat 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." The "name" of our Lord is His Word of God, the Truth: Rev 19:13 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." I hope more brethren here would share the joy of a "holy kiss." [/b] ************************************************* The enemy of God is enticing the children of God by trying to pattern the way of the Lord, but always fail miserably because the one true God will always come to the rescue of His sheep through his foreknowledge that His herd will remain faithful to Him. John 10:29 “[b]My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and [u]no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand[/u].” [/b]
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cristinolese
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Posted: Nov 01, 2007 6:38:41 AM
God’s chosen do dream. Who can interpret dreams but God as Joseph, son of Jacob, told those who thought he could interpret them. Gen 40:8 [i]And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? … [/i] Brethren, God has shown us how wonderful to hear His message from the dreams of His chosen. Be they sad, frightening, or pleasant, all are intended to lift them up if in the end they submit to Him. We are familiar with the story of Joseph who was sold by his brothers and cast out into Egypt. God turned his misery and desolation into glory, and of his brothers who hated him -- foremost of God's glory. May those who are trying to disturb us by posting irrelevant materials change their attitude and share with our joy.
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mrwilson37
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Posted: Nov 01, 2007 4:30:44 PM
What a great revelation from God. Since nobody in here could interpret dreams. God send his message to his chosen thru dreams. Jesus Christ being the 1st born (model), what happened to him in Matthew 4:1 (Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil) is happening to every chosen. Brethren this is a great warning from God. Despite we are sitting on sand and clear water touching our feet and everything seems perfect, devil is sitting in our left side to cheat us. But thanks to God, there is always a bulky rock behind us to depend his chosen, by giving us joy in revealing his words. God is good... ----- Original Message ---- From: art barga <bibletalk@purechristianity.org> To: bibletalk@purechristianity.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:40:35 PM Subject: RE: A dream to remember Brethren, It is God who interprets dreams through His words by comparing spritual things with spiritual just like He did with your dream. It is the spirit of God in you otherwise you will not recognize the "rock" to be Jesus Christ as written in: Romans 9:33 "As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed" Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" "sand" as people as written in: 1 Samuel 13:5 "And the Philistines gathered themselves together to fight with Israel, thirty thousand chariots, and six thousand horsemen, and people as the sand which is on the sea shore in multitude: and they came up, and pitched in Michmash, eastward from Bethaven." "sea"(body of water) as word of God Isaiah 11:9 "They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea." Ephesians 5:26 "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, " Indeed, you are walking with the truth(Jesus Christ) and you have emerged(sitting on top of the people-sand)from the natural men meaning you are not a captive anymore of the human doctrines. You were set free by the truth(Jesus Christ). The spirit of the Lord in you urges you to have a fellowship with the word and the spirit of the Lord is abounding in you. Now let the words of the Lord Jesus Christ interpret the man sitting at your left side who turned to be your third grade teacher. Those who are on the left are not of the Lord as written in: Matthew 25:32 "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:" Matthew 25:33 "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left." And those with yellow on their selves are unclean as written in: Leviticus 13:30 "Then the priest shall see the plague: and, behold, if it be in sight deeper than the skin; and there be in it a yellow thin hair; then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a dry scall, even a leprosy upon the head or beard." The third connotes death in spirit, It is within this bound that God still dead and has risen not until the third day from being entombed as written in: 1 Corinthians 15:3 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And you are dead when you are living by the flesh(natural man) as written in: Romans 8:13 "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." Romans 8:11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." A teacher is supposed to be telling the truth as written in: 1 Timothy 2:7 "Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity" With the foregoing verses, it appears in your dream that before recognizing the one true God someone who is respectable with the likes of scribes and pharisees is trying to entice you with the human doctrines regarding the truth. Evident that the spirit of the Lord is within you reveals this man as satan - an enemy of God. As for the "kiss", let me re-post excerpt from previous posting of Bro. Fil: "Again Paul wrote the Christians of Philippi: Phi 2:1 "If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind." A "holy kiss" is the binding force of real Christians in their "spiritual walk." "Churches of Christ" is composed of two or more real believers enjoying the great message of the word, the "spiritual food" being fed by the Shepherd. This is what our Lord meant when He told His Disciples: Mat 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." The "name" of our Lord is His Word of God, the Truth: Rev 19:13 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." I hope more brethren here would share the joy of a "holy kiss." ************************************************* The enemy of God is enticing the children of God by trying to pattern the way of the Lord, but always fail miserably because the one true God will always come to the rescue of His sheep through his foreknowledge that His herd will remain faithful to Him. John 10:29 “My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.” __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Rachelle
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Posted: Nov 03, 2007 5:23:39 PM
Brethren, I'd like to thank you for your responses and for interpreting this remarkable dream that benifits all of us. Matt 11:25 "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou has hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto the babes."
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vdf
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Posted: Nov 03, 2007 11:24:50 PM
amen
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