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Posted Dec 02, 2006 at 3:50:33 PM
Subject: ants and ant
[b]Bro. VDF, I thank the Lord for your effort in [/b][b]sharing with us [/b][b]this [/b] [b]important message [/b][b]thru the [/b][b]internet. It is [/b][b]really a joy to hear how [/b] [b]the Brethren [/b][b]dividing [/b][b]rightly the [/b][b]spiritual [/b][b]bread to nourish each [/b] [b]other. Also, [/b][b]I can not help but [/b][b]to praise [/b][b]the [/b][b]one [/b][b]true God when [/b] [b]I stumbled [/b][b]to some christian forums [/b][b]and I was suprised [/b][b]to see how [/b] [b]bold [/b][b]some of the Brethren sharing [/b][b]the word of [/b][b]God.By just [/b][b]reading [/b] [b]their [/b][b]postings, the joy is flowing from my heart.[/b] [b]This topic (ant) is worthy and timely, a real spiritual food for the children [/b] [b]of God/Church.[/b] [b]I would like to share the collective revelations of the church to our [/b] [b]non-tagalog speaking [/b][b]Brethren.[/b] ========================================================== Proverbs 30:25 "The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer; =========================================================== [b]Most if not all of us, has observed these small creatures as deligent and usually [/b] [b]pepare their [/b][b]foods during summer time and this action fits the slogan "Save for [/b] [b]the rainy [/b][b]days" of [/b][b]our physical life.[/b] [b][/b] [b]The above verse has mentioned these creatures are the "weak people"[/b] [b](not [/b][b]strong). [/b] 1 Peter 3:7 "Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, [u][b]giving honour unto the wife[/b], [b]as unto the weaker vessel[/b][/u], and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. [b]While looking at the above verse, the wife was likened to a"weak vessel" where [/b] [b]hereunder [/b][b]verses implied that the wife is the [/b][b]Church/children of God.[/b] Jeremiah 3:14 "[b]Turn, O backsliding children[/b],[b] saith the LORD[/b]; [b]for I am married [/b] [b]unto you:[/b] and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:. Isa 54:5 [b]"For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name:..[/b] [b][/b] [b][/b] [b]If these ants were identified to be the children of God/true believers of Christ,[/b] [b]why they are being compared to the ants who make ready/put together their [/b] [b]meat [/b][b]during [/b][b]summer? [/b][b]What is the implication/significance of summer to the [/b] [b]chosen of God [/b][b]in supplying their meat[/b][b]?[/b] [b][/b] [b] [b]Summer is described as the warmest season of the year. In short, this is caused[/b] [b]by plenty of sunlight to have a warm season.[/b] [/b] [b]Summer has a prime importance to children of God. For the sun that gives light is [/b] [b]stated to be our Lord Jesus in verse [/b][b]below:[/b] [b][/b] Isaiah 60:19 "The [b][u]sun shall be no more thy light[/u][/b] by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee:[u] [b]but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light[/b][/u] and [u][b]thy God thy glory".[/b] [/u] [b][u][/u][/b] [b]But what is the meat being prepared in the summer by these ants (chosen/church)?[/b] [b]Is it not the meat being mentioned in the verse hereunder?[/b] John 6:51 "[b][u]I am the living bread which came down from heaven[/u][/b]: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and [b][u]the bread that I will give is my flesh[/u][/b], which I will give for the life of the world. John 6:53 "Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, [b]Except ye eat the [/b] [b][u]flesh[/u] of the [/b][b]Son of man[/b], and [b]drink his [u]blood[/u][/b], [b]ye have no [u]life[/u] in you.[/b] John 6:54 "[b]Whoso eateth [u]my flesh[/u][/b], and drinketh [u]my blood[/u], [b]hath [u]eternal life[/u][/b]; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:55 "For [b][u]my flesh is meat[/u][/b] indeed, and [u]my blood is drink[/u] indeed. [b][/b] John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the[u] [/u][b][u]words[/u] that I [/b] [b]speak unto you[/b], they are spirit, [b]and [u]they are life[/u][/b][u].[/u] Jer. 15:16 "Thy [b][u]words [/u][/b]were found, and [b][u]I did eat them[/u][/b]; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart…" [b]Therefore the meat is the Lord's flesh and the flesh are His words.[/b] [b] [b]Thus children of God prepare/accumulate their spiritual meat that gives life like the ants[/b] [b]from [/b][b]the strong [/b][b]presence [/b][b]of God (Holy Spirit) [/b][b]with in [/b][b]them. When the spirit of God in them [/b] [b]is prevailing t[/b][b]he meat (words of God) [/b][b]are understood clearly, as if filling/feeding up the [/b] [b]storehouse [/b][b](temple of God).[/b] [/b] [b]==========================================================[/b] [b]Brethren, please look carefully the verses mentioning the ant and ants hereunder: [/b] Proverbs 30:25 [b]"[/b]The[b] [u]ants [/u]are a people not strong, yet [u]they [/u][/b][u][b]prepare their meat in[/b] [/u] [u][b]the summer;[/b][/u] [u][/u] Proverbs 6:6[b] "Go to [u]the ant[/u], thou sluggard; consider her ways, [/b][b]and be wise:"[/b] Proverbs 6:7 "Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Proverbs 6:8[b] "Provideth her[u] meat in the[/u] [u]summer[/u], and gathereth her [u]food in the harvest[/u]"[/b] [b]Have you noticed that ants in Pro 30:25 only prepare their meat during summer? [/b] [b](this was revealed [/b][b]on preceding paragraphs why it is so)[/b] [b][/b] [b]How about the ant in Proverbs 6:6 instead of preparing its(her) meat, it(she) provides her[/b] [b]meat meaning it(she) has its(her) meat in the summer (Proverbs 6:8). Its (her) meat is available [/b] [b]and can be [/b][b]given away to those who need it particularly during summer. [/b] [b]Reconciling the subject verses, the former are the children of God and the latter is the son [/b] [b]of God (having the role of the first born among the chidren of God and the [/b][b]head of the church) [/b] [b]==========================================================[/b] Proverbs 6:7 "Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, [b]==========================================================[/b] [b]Having no guide for [/b][b]she (head od the church in His role as the son) is the way:[/b] [b][/b] John 14:6[b] "Jesus saith unto him, [/b][b]I am [/b][b]the way[/b],[b].....[/b] [b][/b] [b]and [/b] [b][/b] [b]the model:[/b] Romans 8:29"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his[b] Son, that he [/b][b]might be the firstborn [/b][b]among[/b] [b]many brethren.". [/b] [b][/b] [b]Having no overseer for being the Holy spirit that makes the flock of God [/b] [b]as overseers:[/b] [b][/b] Acts 20:28 [b]"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the[/b] [b]which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath [/b] [b]purchased with his own blood." [/b] [b][/b] [b]And having no ruler for being the son of God (Head of the church) and as God the Father:[/b] [b][/b] [b]Ephesians 5:23"For the husband is the head of the wife, [/b] [b]even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."[/b] [b]Colossians 1:18 "And he is the head of the body, the church: [/b] [b]ho is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things [/b] [b]he might have the preeminence."[/b] [b][/b] [b]Revelation 17:14 "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall [/b] [b]overcome them: [/b][b]for he is [u]Lord of lords[/u], and King of kings: and they that are with [/b] [b]him are called, and chosen, and faithful."[/b] [b][/b] [b]Revelation 19:16 "And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,[/b] [b] KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."[/b] [b][/b] [b]In Proverbs 6:6 , a sluggard is being advised to go to the ant and possibly [/b] [b]adopt her ways and be wise.[/b] [b]Who is this sluggard advised such, is he/she not the one written in the following verses?[/b] [b]Proverbs 6:9 "[/b]How long wilt thou [b][u]sleep[/u], O sluggard? [/b]when wilt thou arise out of [b]thy [u]sleep[/u]?[/b] [b]Proverbs 10:5 "[/b]He that gathereth in summer is a wise son[b]: [/b][b]but he that sleepeth in [/b][b]harvest[/b] [b]is a son that causeth shame.[/b] [b][/b] [b]Proverbs 17:2 "A [u]wise servant shall have rule over a son that causeth shame[/u], and [/b] [b][u]shall have part of the inheritance among the brethren[/u].[/b] [b]Thus, the Lord Jesus is the ant that the sluggard (are the lazy brethren who do not strive[/b] [b]to enhance the God's spirit in them). They stopped to work for the realization of the [/b] [b]faith given [/b][b]by the one true God through grace. [/b] [b][/b] James 2:17 "Even [b][u]so faith, if it hath not works[/u][/b],[b] is dead, being alone.[/b] [b][/b] James 2:18 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:20 "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:21 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:22 "[b]Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and [/b] [b]by works was faith made perfect? " [/b] [b]That is why the sluggard is being advised that he should go the ant [/b] [b]and to learn her ways as the head of the church and the model. [/b] [b]And to be wise [/b][b]as the Lord Jesus( the Father) for in:[/b] [b][/b] [b]Jude 1:25 "To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion [/b] [b]and power, both now and ever. Amen.[/b] [b][/b] [b]1 Timothy 1:17 "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, [/b] [b]be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.[/b] [b]In Proverbs 6:8, after Lord Jesus given His meat to those who ask for it due to the [/b] [b]strong presence of His spirit in children of God. Then He will gather His food in the[/b] [b]harvest.[/b] [b][/b] [b]What connotes the harvest in the word of God?[/b] [b] [/b] Matthew 13:39 "The enemy that sowed them is the devil; [b]the harvest is the end of [/b] [b]the world[/b]; and the reapers are the angels. [b]And the world is :[/b] Matthew 13:38 "The [u]field is the world[/u]; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; Mat 18:7 “[u]Woe unto the world[/u] because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” Luk 2:1 “And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that [u]all the world[/u] should be taxed.” [b]How about the food?[/b] Acts 10:9 "…Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:" Acts 10:10 "And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, " Acts 10:11 "And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:" Acts 10:12 "Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. " Acts 10:13 "And there came a voice to him, Rise, [b]Peter; kill, and eat. "[/b] [b][/b] Acts 10:14 "But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for [b]I have never eaten any thing that is [/b] [b]common or unclean. "[/b] Acts 10:15 "And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou [b]common[/b]. 16This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven." Acts 10:28 "And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; [b]but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.[/b] [b][/b] [b]In conclusion, the food are people specifically children of God/chosen perfected thru[/b] [b]the spiritual word of the one true God by deligently following the way shown.[/b] [b][/b] [b]Brethren, haven't you noticed that when you do not read or not having fellowship with[/b] [b]the word of God or to the church the tendency of the spirit within you becomes weak. [/b] [b]The worse thing is that the man's spirit in you prevailing the God's spirit. In return, [/b] [b]the [/b][b]words are very difficult to understand, but when you always or regularly [/b] [b]ponder to the [/b][b]words they seem to be plain and simple. Though there are times that I [/b] [b]myself is at fault with this and trying to go back by asking God to help through this famine. [/b] [b]Let us all will and be deligent to remain working our salvation (Philippians 2:12)[/b] [b]till we reach the harvest season. There is nothing impossible [/b][b]to the Lord [/b][b]whenever:[/b] James 1:5-6 " If any of [b]you lack wisdom[/b], let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.." [b][/b] [b][/b] [b][/b] [b][/b] [b][/b] [b][/b] [b][/b]
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Posted: Dec 03, 2006 5:49:50 AM
[color=darkblue]Wonderful! Great! Praise the Word of God for its power! How could the “chosen few” ever have [b][size=18]SPIRITUAL FELLOWSHIP [/size][/b]around the world when they cannot see each other and/or have not known each other; but all this is immaterial in the eyes of God? Now it is clearly demonstrated by this post of “one of the flock”, how the “body” is one with many members having different functions and gifts, “But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.” (1 Cor. 12). Satan will cringe with shame and fear for this revelation of God’s power, how He gathers His flock in “one body,” sans human ways and wisdom, which the "Old Serpent" took advantage of to deceive the whole world. [/color][size=12][/size]
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