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"Born of a woman"

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Posted Sep 27, 2005 at 3:26:46 PM
Subject: "Born of a woman"
I read the replies to my previous posting. With the help of God I can comprehend the great message which is very far from what I used to hear from preachers. Thank you. Now I read the following, and perhaps everybody knows Jesus Christ is referred to as having been born of Mary, the wife of Joseph. May I know God’s revelation aside from this? [size=18][color=red]Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. [/color][/size] Richard
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ric32bailey
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Posted: Sep 30, 2005 10:16:25 AM
Am I correct to think that God simply means the literal meaning of Jesus being born of Mary, the wife of Joseph with this verse? Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
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sandra3102
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Posted: Oct 01, 2005 4:44:47 AM
I believe God has something more to say on this matter aside from the letter since “the letter killeth.” I am also waiting for God’s revelation on the “spirit of the word that giveth life” that serves the real spiritual food for us. Sandie
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Posted: Oct 01, 2005 10:05:02 AM
Literally, woman refers to a female in the physical gender. Thus, Jesus is known as the [u]son of Mary[/u], wife of Joseph, popularly known as Blessed Virgin Mary. People limited to the “letter” of the word spoke of Jesus as the son of Mary. Mar 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, [u]the son of Mary[/u], the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. People when they talked to Jesus, say of Mary, “your mother.” Mat 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, [u]thy mother [/u]and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. Actually, Jesus is never a son of Mary (Virgin Mary), but only serving as a surrogate mother to Him. That is why Jesus never addressed her “mother” but “woman.” Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, [u][b]Woman[/[/b]u], behold thy son! Please read the article VIRGIN MARY, THE MOTHER OF JESUS http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php?module=articles&func=display&ptid=1&aid=26 [u][b]Spiritually, God does not recognize physical gender[/b]:[/u] Gal 3:28 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, [u]there is neither male nor female[/u]: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Spiritually in the following God, as husband, is the “man” and the chosen, both physical female and male, as the “women.” Jer 3:14 “Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for [u]I am married unto you:[/u] and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion.” Isa 54:5 “For thy [u][b]Maker[/b][/u] is thine [u][b]husband[/b][/u]; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.” Therefore, “[color=red][size=18]God sent forth his Son, made of a woman[/size][/color],” refers to Jesus Christ, Emmanuel that means “God with us” in His role as “SON” taking the spiritual form of a “WOMAN” as model to the chosen who are the “spiritual wife of God.” God in the flesh, in the person of Jesus Christ, therefore takes the two roles of FATHER and SON (spiritual woman) as seen in the following: As FATHER: • Jesus accepted worship (many verses) • Jesus accepted the title Lord, Master, and Teacher (read Matt. 23:8-9) As SON showing the Way, by example: • Jesus totally humbled Himself before the Father John 5:19 ...Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. • Jesus prayed to the Father (several verses) • Jesus did not accept that He is good Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, [u]Why callest thou me good[/u]? [b]none is good, save one, that is, God[/b]. • Jesus told Magdalene He has God John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. I suppose all these are foolishness to the Natural Men, and cannot serve as “spiritual food” to them. 1 Cor 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” But to us, who now speak the “language of the Lamb,” serve as spiritual guide and a cause for an everlasting thanksgiving to our Creator. 1 Co 2:15 ‘But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.” Our guidance: 1 Cor 2:12 “Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; [color=red]comparing spiritual things with spiritual[/color].” [u][b][/b][/u]
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Posted: Oct 01, 2005 10:30:35 AM
By virtue of these revelations of God regarding our Lord Jesus Christ [color=red][size=18]“made of a woman[/size][/color],” He, as model showed the example to the chosen: Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [u]to be conformed to the image of his Son[/u], that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. The “poor in spirit” (Matt. 6:3) are “[color=red][size=18]redeemed under the law[/size][/color].” No longer of the "letter that killeth" but of the "spirit" of the word that "giveth life." Rom 10:4 For [u][size=12]Christ is the end of the law [/size][/u]for righteousness to every one that believeth. “And were made adopted sons of God.” Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them [u]gave he power to become the sons of God[/u], even to them that believe on his name:
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Posted: Oct 02, 2005 4:06:36 PM
[color=darkblue]I feel I can follow up the message coming from God, and hoping He will reveal to me things also so that I can participate in the discussion someday. Richard[/color]
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Posted: Oct 03, 2005 10:07:03 AM
In the last sect that I joined in, it is almost always that when a certain verse- taught by our pastors is still unclear to me, I usually approach and ask them to further explain it to me. Most of the time, their "explanations" are very convincing so that when we parted I have nothing but high praises for them. One time, the pastor who was assigned to teach that day, taught us to take a little wine when our stomach is aching (that is how he understood 1 Tim. 5:23). What happened next? He was suspended (because we are strictly not allowed to take wine of any kind in that congreggation). That event drove me nowhere to go and whom to believe. And considering that even in the Bible I could not find the answer as to "which is which" I was then haunted by mixed emotions . Does God forbids His people to take wine? To take the word of God literally, the answer would be "Yes and No:" Leviticus 10:9 " Do not take wine nor strong drink...." 1Timothy 5:23 "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." Our pastor then understood "for thy stomach's sake" as "when our stomach is aching". It was human wisdom that he used in understanding God's word not ever thinking that the word "aching" was not there. I waited for the explanations of the"Drink no longer water" but he did not touch the subject. Did I care to approach him after the service as I usually do ? No more. Because as the whole thing brought me so much confusion, I felt I could never be convince by him or by anyone else no matter how much they tried. What was left of me then? Nothing ,.... but to hope that one day it would be God Himself that will explain me whatever is there that I wanted to know. Did the time comes that it happen? No.Why? Because I was not in the Truth. It was only after that the Lord sought and found me that everything about 1 Tim. 5:23 became clear to me. Talking about "stomach", it is where our food goes. When we take unhealty foods, normally our stomach suffers from disturbances. Now, since in the spiritual side it is the word of God that we say we eat, we ought to eat the right kind of food- which is the Truth. Who can feed us the Truth but God( the Truth) alone through His word (the Word was God). Water symbolizes the word of God. If we are to take water alone(or study the word by ourselves) without the help of the Holy Spirit that giveth life to His word, automatically our stomach will suffer. So, what are we to do? Drink not water alone but instead take a little wine and this is " Word + Holy Spirit ". Who can follow this in the real sense? Those that are "MADE OF A WOMAN" who else!
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Posted: Oct 03, 2005 8:06:33 PM
Great revelation Sis. Aida. This should have been posted as a separate topic: "water and wine for the stomach."
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