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Posted May 10, 2008 at 3:26:55 PM
Subject: Sabbath No Longer binding!
Jesus expected the Jews to be keeping the sabbath, not his followers. The Scriptures do not contradict themselves: [b]Let no man therefore judge you [/b]in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or [b]of the sabbath [/b][days]: {in meat...: or, for eating and drinking} {respect: or, part} 17 [b]Which are a shadow of things to come;[/b] but the body [is] of Christ. (Col. 2:16-17) KJV (My Bold) &amp; In that he saith, [b]A new [covenant], he hath made the first old[/b]. Now that [b]which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away[/b]. (Heb. 8:13) KJV (My Bold) [b]Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,[/b] which was contrary to us, [b]and took it out of the way[/b], nailing it to his cross; (Col. 2:14) KJV (My Bold) All these tell me that the sabbath is not binding on the believer. Cheers!

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Posted: May 10, 2008 5:18:54 PM
Colossians 2:16 Let no [u][i]man therefore judge you[/i][/u] in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Colossians 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. The key word was judge and don't seem to convey that the [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u]' s [u]Word[/u] [/b]sabbath is now not binding with the absolute believer of the SPIRITUAL TRUTH. I don't mind about man's judgment but the one only from the [u][b]LORD[/b][/u] as what [u][b]HE[/b][/u] commanded to be written by john: [i]12:48[/i] &quot; [b]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day[/b].&quot; [u]and again the reminder and then the final judgement:[/u] [u][i]Rev 22:18[/i][/u] [b]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:[/b] [u][i]Rev 22:19[/i][/u] [b]And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. [/b]
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Posted: May 10, 2008 6:11:09 PM
[quote:daf1704e10="almario1"]Colossians 2:16 Let no [u][i]man therefore judge you[/i][/u] in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Colossians 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. The key word was judge and don't seem to convey that the [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u]' s [u]Word[/u] [/b]sabbath is now not binding with the absolute believer of the SPIRITUAL TRUTH. I don't mind about man's judgment but the one only from the [u][b]LORD[/b][/u] as what [u][b]HE[/b][/u] commanded to be written by john: [i]12:48[/i] &quot; [b]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day[/b].&quot; [u]and again the reminder and then the final judgement:[/u] [u][i]Rev 22:18[/i][/u] [b]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:[/b] [u][i]Rev 22:19[/i][/u] [b]And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. [/b][/quote] There is only one(1)legitimate truth, and that is the spiritual truth and all the Scriptures I quoted are a confirmation that the Sabbath is not binding? They are not ' men's words, they are the inspired words of God given to men. i.e Paul (Col. 2:16 - 17) KJV Wherefore [b]the law was our schoolmaster [/b][to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 [b]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster[/b]. (Gal. 3:24 - 25) KJV (My Bold) Cheers!

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Posted: May 10, 2008 6:54:34 PM
I am glad to know that you mentioned SPIRITUAL TRUTH from the Scriptures. Much more as you wrote GOD inspired and absolutely therefore must not add or diminish from the SPIRITUAL Words of Truth. [quote] They are not ' men's words, they are the inspired words of God given to men. i.e Paul (Col. 2:16 - 17) KJV [/quote] I am only with the translated KJV and none else of the revised, retranslated or the others. I found no inspire, inpires or inspired when it came to GOD's Word that HE commanded to be written. 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost 1Th 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake. 1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, [u]not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth[/u], [b]but which the [u]Holy[/u] [u]Ghost[/u] [u]teacheth[/u][/b]; [u]comparing spiritual things with spiritual.[/u] Inspiration there is but just gives understanding or revelations just from the commanded written words itself with no contradictions. At first, seems there is but with humility, it would be revealed in due time. Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. or on another reference, this is what it conveys: 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Posted: May 11, 2008 8:24:55 AM
Therefore, we agree, being inspired, the Bible teaches the Sabbath is no longer binding. Thank you

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Posted: May 11, 2008 1:20:05 PM
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Composer, i don't agree. Sabbath must never ever be for the physical israelites only but truly indeed also for the true believers (spiritual israelites) on SPIRITUAL Truth in GOD's Words that HE commanded to be written. Revelations only from Words of Truth is on the offing. Please bear.
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Posted: May 12, 2008 4:47:58 AM
[quote:ece3d9fa63="Composer"]Therefore, we agree, being inspired, the Bible teaches the Sabbath is no longer binding. Thank you[/quote] This is what I read: [size=18]Regarding the Law on Sabbath:[/size] Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: [size=18]Very clearly God wants the Sabbath to be kept or obeyed, as the Natural Man understands.[/size] Regarding the “end of the law” this must include Sabbath. So are “ordinances contrary to us” that clearly entails man’s efforts to follow: Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; [size=18]However, here is the assurance of our Lord that He came to fulfill the law:[/size] Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [size=18]Very clearly in the mind of the Natural Man there is a contradiction towhat is written. That is why different interpretations of the word of God is heard from known “experts” of the Holy Bible.[/size] [size=18]However, the controversy is resolved with the following:[/size] 2 Cor 3:6 Who also hath made us [u]able ministers of the new testament[/u]; [size=18]not of the letter[/size], but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. [size=18]The “letter” of the law/word was given to CONVICT man of man of sins so as to simply ask for MERCY from God:[/size] Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: [b]for by the law is the knowledge of sin.[/b] Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and [b]yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [/b] [size=18]Therefore, it is the “spirit” of the law/word that God wants His CHOSEN (only) to submit to them for He expounds the intended meaning. This is what I read in the article:[/size] “LORD OF THE SABBATH” http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Lord_of_the_Sabbath
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Posted: May 12, 2008 9:25:21 AM
I am not a J.W or Bible Student however I find the following most pertinent - . . . . . . . But some one will ask, Was not the Sabbath observed before the giving of the Law? and does not the reference to God's resting on the seventh day prove that the Sabbath was observed from the time of creation? We answer, No; during all the two thousand years from Adam to Jacob, the record shows no command to keep the Sabbath, not even a hint on the subject. The Mosaic or Law dispensation began with Israel, the night they left Egypt. The Passover was the first feature of Law instituted; and it was instituted that night. And that Law covenant is continually referred to as dating from that time &quot;When I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt.&quot; Heb. 8:9, Jer. 31:32. The observance of the seventh day as a rest day, or Sabbath, was instituted as a part of the Law of God some two weeks before the formal giving of that Law in tables of stone at Mt. Sinai, namely, at the giving of the manna, in the wilderness, where a most favorable opportunity occurred for giving them an object lesson in the double supply of manna on the sixth day, and none on the seventh. But from the entire account it is evident that it was something new to the Israelites. Its explanation [R972 : page 4] to them, (Exod. 16:22-30) as well as Moses' uncertainty in the case of the first transgression of this law (Num. 15:32-36.), prove that it was new, that it had not been known among them or their fathers previously. The reason given for this command, to observe the Sabbath because God had rested on the seventh day--after the six days of creation, could not be understood by Israel, as we can now understand it in the light of the New Testament. They probably got the idea that God was weary after the six days work of creating, and rested as they did; but we see and will shortly show that he rested in a very different way, and for a different reason. (Source: http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbv5/r970.htm#x37843) You haven't addressed the fact that God created the Law for a particular people, a particular purpose, and a particular time, which would pass away when it was no longer applicable and how Paul makes this point in Colossians 2:14-16. What you have tried to do to attempt to support your argument is say that Scriptures contradict themselves, which of course they do not, therefore your argument is invalid. You also speak of &quot; His chosen only &quot;. Well no one (except God) yet knows IF they are worthy to be chosen / accounted as worthy as God's appointed Judge Jesus will decide at the impending Judgment Seat. It is arrogance and presumption to bypass that Judgment Seat by claiming any one of us is already worthy. IF that were so the Judgment Seat would be degraded to a mere ' Rubber Stamp for some. &quot; Regards to all

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Posted: May 12, 2008 11:32:06 AM
God is speaking “spiritual things” imperceptible by the Natural Man. The Sabbath is a “commandment” which in the view of the Natural Man has to be “obeyed.” This is comparable to the “First of all the commandments” that many people ignore for the same reason: Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; [b]The Lord our God is one Lord[/b]: Unknown to many people (Natural Men), this is a prerequisite to the Two Great Commandments: Mar 12:30 And [b]thou shalt love the Lord thy God [/b]with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Just as the “First of all the commandments” is very important to God, so is the Sabbath that actually refers to His plan for SALVATION.
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Posted: May 12, 2008 1:54:23 PM
I appreciate your inferred argument but it doesn't stack up in reality. Paul was certainly inspired and spiritual when he wrote - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: {in meat...: or, for eating and drinking} {respect: or, part} 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; . . . (Col. 2:16,17) KJV The Sabbath is not binding any longer. It was a shadow of things to come.

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Posted: May 12, 2008 2:49:25 PM
Precisely Paul was not referring to literal-physical things about “meat, drink, holyday, new moon, sabbath (days)” for these are SHADOWS OF SPIRITUAL THINGS. God has His way of revealing the spiritual equivalents of these things, and we will “see” them after our spiritual blindness is healed.
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Posted: May 12, 2008 3:51:17 PM
[quote:9f41f628c6="ric32bailey"]Precisely Paul was not referring to literal-physical things about “meat, drink, holyday, new moon, sabbath (days)” for these are SHADOWS OF SPIRITUAL THINGS. God has His way of revealing the spiritual equivalents of these things, and we will “see” them after our spiritual blindness is healed.[/quote] God revealed literal-physical things via Christ and Paul. The Sabbath was a literal event (a literal day of 2*12 hours duration) as well as a Spiritual one. The Sabbath, Paul teaches is literally not applicable any longer. Christ also fulfilled the Law on our behalf nailing it (dispensing with it) on his cross. You appear to be one of the misguided that reject God's Grace and think incorrectly that you can ' earn ' God's favour by working for it e.g. keeping the old Jewish only Sabbath law going. “Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness” (Rom. 4:4,5). Your form of working for salvation (keeping bits of the Sabbath Laws going) is not counted as righteousness. Cheers!

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Posted: May 13, 2008 2:38:53 AM
God shows His ways in wondrous manner, and He says: • Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. • Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Just as God is a Spirit, so are His words spiritual: • Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: [b]THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT[/b], and they are life. So therefore JESUS is pictured as a “Lamb” (Joh 1:29), a SHEPHERD, whose flock is composed of SHEEP, not goats. Jesus told His Disciples: • Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own SHEEP, he goeth before them, and [b]THE SHEEP FOLLOW HIM: FOR THEY KNOW HIS VOICE[/b]. • Joh 10:5 And a [b]STRANGER[/b] will they not follow, but will [b]FLEE FROM HIM[/b]: for they [b]KNOW NOT THE VOICE OF STRANGERS[/b]. Now, how the message regarding SABBATH could be perceived as a LITERAL day by the Scribes and Pharisees, when our Lord JESUS expounded on its significance SPIRITUALLY by a “SHEEP falling into the pit that needed to be rescued or to be SAVED! (Mat 12:11). SABBATH is God’s Way of SALVATION that is why He told His chosen people: • Exodus 31:14 “Ye shall keep the [b]sabbath[/b] therefore; for it is [b]holy[/b] unto you… 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the[b] sabbath[/b], to observe the [b]sabbath[/b] throughout their generations, [size=18]for a perpetual covenant[/size]. 17It is [size=18]a sign [/size]between me and the children of Israel [size=18]for ever [/size]… For details, click: http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Lord_of_the_Sabbath Indeed, SHEEP and GOATS can never understand each other that, again, our Lord told His DISCPLES: • Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: • Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a SHEPHERD divideth his SHEEP from the GOATS: • Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
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Posted: May 13, 2008 11:21:04 AM
[quote:0a9cb0c04a="fil3232003"]God shows His ways in wondrous manner, and He says: • Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. • Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Just as God is a Spirit, so are His words spiritual: • Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: [b]THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT[/b], and they are life. So therefore JESUS is pictured as a “Lamb” (Joh 1:29), a SHEPHERD, whose flock is composed of SHEEP, not goats. Jesus told His Disciples: • Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own SHEEP, he goeth before them, and [b]THE SHEEP FOLLOW HIM: FOR THEY KNOW HIS VOICE[/b]. • Joh 10:5 And a [b]STRANGER[/b] will they not follow, but will [b]FLEE FROM HIM[/b]: for they [b]KNOW NOT THE VOICE OF STRANGERS[/b]. Now, how the message regarding SABBATH could be perceived as a LITERAL day by the Scribes and Pharisees, when our Lord JESUS expounded on its significance SPIRITUALLY by a “SHEEP falling into the pit that needed to be rescued or to be SAVED! (Mat 12:11). SABBATH is God’s Way of SALVATION that is why He told His chosen people: • Exodus 31:14 “Ye shall keep the [b]sabbath[/b] therefore; for it is [b]holy[/b] unto you… 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the[b] sabbath[/b], to observe the [b]sabbath[/b] throughout their generations, [size=18]for a perpetual covenant[/size]. 17It is [size=18]a sign [/size]between me and the children of Israel [size=18]for ever [/size]… For details, click: http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Lord_of_the_Sabbath Indeed, SHEEP and GOATS can never understand each other that, again, our Lord told His DISCPLES: • Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: • Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a SHEPHERD divideth his SHEEP from the GOATS: • Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.[/quote] Jesus expected the Jews to be keeping the sabbath, not his followers. As you pointed out yourself - 17It is [size=18]a sign [/size]between me and the children of Israel [size=18]for ever [/size]… What you failed to realise is that it was the instruction to the Children of Israel to keep the Sabbath, but this was not an instruction to all mankind. The Scriptures do not contradict themselves as you try to make them do: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: {in meat...: or, for eating and drinking} {respect: or, part} 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ. (Col. 2:16-17) KJV (My Bold) &amp; In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away. (Heb. 8:13) KJV (My Bold) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (Col. 2:14) KJV (My Bold) All these tell me unambiguously that the sabbath is not binding on the believer and is in fact a retrograde step backwards to that of works and denying God's gift of Salvation by His Grace through the Faith of the believer. Cheers!

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Posted: May 13, 2008 1:48:26 PM
[quote:5f2bee94bf="Composer"][u]I am not a J.W or Bible Student[/u] however I find the following most pertinent - [/quote]Before going on further with the sabbath discussion, please bear with me by answering the following questions. [b]By not being a J.W.([u]an absolute belief of almighty and mighty god[/u]), what is your definite recognition of GOD?[/b] [quote:5f2bee94bf="Composer"]Your form of working for salvation ([u]keeping bits of the Sabbath Laws going[/u]) is not counted as righteousness. [/quote] [b]By this, am i right to conclude from what you wrote that GOD's Word of sabbath are just bits of laws that could not be counted as righteousness while am working out for my personal Spiritual salvation?[/b] I absolutely believe on GOD's instructions from HIS Words that HE commanded to be written on how to read the bible. [u][i]Isa 28:10[/i][/u] [b]For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:[/b] but.....GOD also strongly warns that a true searcher must always be deeply aware of literal interprators who merely spiritualized HIS Words with so much human acquired philosophies which are just based on the bible's letter for letter face value. [u][i]Isa 28:13[/i][/u] [b]But the word of the LORD [u]was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept[/u]; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; [u]that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.[/u][/b] [u]This is more indeed so comforting.[/u] I don't mind about man's judgment but the one only from the LORD as what HE commanded to be written by john: [u][i]John 12:48[/i][/u] &quot; [b]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/b]&quot; and by always keeping Spiritually in mind about the severe warning and HIS final judgement when adding or taking away [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u][/b]'s [b]Words[/b] that [u][b]HE[/b][/u] commanded to be written: [u][i]Rev 22:18[/i][/u] [b]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall [u]add unto these things[/u], God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [/b] [u][i]Rev 22:19[/i][/u] [b]And if any man shall [u]take away from the words of the book of this prophecy[/u], God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.[/b]
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Posted: May 13, 2008 3:02:07 PM
[quote=&quot;almario1&quot;] [quote:cb1358fa8b="Composer"][u]I am not a J.W or Bible Student[/u] however I find the following most pertinent - [/quote]Before going on further with the sabbath discussion, please bear with me by answering the following questions. [b]By not being a J.W.([u]an absolute belief of almighty and mighty god[/u]), what is your definite recognition of GOD?[/b] Faith! [quote:cb1358fa8b="Composer"]Your form of working for salvation ([u]keeping bits of the Sabbath Laws going[/u]) is not counted as righteousness. [/quote] [quote:cb1358fa8b="almario1"] [b]By this, am i right to conclude from what you wrote that GOD's Word of sabbath are just bits of laws that could not be counted as righteousness while am working out for my personal Spiritual salvation?[/b][/quote] It was a sign between God and His people....Ez 31-17....&quot;[b]It is a sign between me and the Children of Israel for ever&quot;[/b] ......At this stage, or any other, it was not a commandment that applied to all mankind. When Christ came he fulfilled the OLD Laws (shadows) and dispensed with them having brought a ' more excellent ministry ' not dependent on the wearisome keeping of OT Laws of rituals etc. but by way of God's Grace and Mercy upon the faithful. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: {in meat...: or, for eating and drinking} {respect: or, part} 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ. (Col. 2:16-17) KJV (My Bold) &amp; In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away. (Heb. 8:13) KJV (My Bold) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (Col. 2:14) KJV (My Bold) All these tell me that the sabbath is not binding on the believer. Scriptures do not contradict themselves, however, your hypothesis makes them self contradict. [quote:cb1358fa8b="almario1"] I absolutely believe on GOD's instructions from HIS Words that HE commanded to be written on how to read the bible. [u][i]Isa 28:10[/i][/u] [b]For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:[/b] but.....GOD also strongly warns that a true searcher must always be deeply aware of literal interprators who merely spiritualized HIS Words with so much human acquired philosophies which are just based on the bible's letter for letter face value. [u][i]Isa 28:13[/i][/u] [b]But the word of the LORD [u]was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept[/u]; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; [u]that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.[/u][/b] [u]This is more indeed so comforting.[/u] I don't mind about man's judgment but the one only from the LORD as what HE commanded to be written by john: [u][i]John 12:48[/i][/u] &quot; [b]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/b]&quot; and by always keeping Spiritually in mind about the severe warning and HIS final judgement when adding or taking away [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u][/b]'s [b]Words[/b] that [u][b]HE[/b][/u] commanded to be written: [u][i]Rev 22:18[/i][/u] [b]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall [u]add unto these things[/u], God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [/b] [u][i]Rev 22:19[/i][/u] [b]And if any man shall [u]take away from the words of the book of this prophecy[/u], God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.[/b][/quote] I am not adding or subtracting Scripture, I am just quoting them as they stand. YOU however are corrupting them by claiming one Scripture contradicts another? You better be careful!

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Posted: May 13, 2008 4:47:34 PM
[quote:5696750700="Composer"] [b]By not being a J.W.([u]an absolute belief of almighty and mighty god[/u]), what is your definite recognition of GOD?[/b] [u][i]Faith![/i][/u] [b]Faith on [u]how many[/u][/b]? [i]Oh you wrote this:[/i] [u]You better be careful![/u] [i]Hope not a feeling of resentment or hurt pride.[/i][/quote] Deeply felt that absolute [b]true recognition[/b] thru humility on GOD's Words that HE commanded to be written is the most important Spiritual Truth to be revealed first before any other else. [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u]'s[/b] [u]Words[/u] on true recognition are indeed very fearsome. [i][u]Matthew 7:22[/u][/i] [b]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[/b] Matthew 7:23 [b]And then will I profess unto them, [u]I[/u] [u]never[/u] [u]knew[/u] [u]you[/u]: [u]depart from me[/u], [u]ye[/u] [u]that[/u] [u]work[/u] [u]iniquity.[/u][/b] [u][i]John 8:24[/i][/u] [b]I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.[/b]
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Posted: May 13, 2008 5:05:36 PM
Do you regard your Sabbath keeping despite the Scriptural proofs against it, worthy of your loss of salvation and death because of your sins in rejecting God's Grace? Do you regard your dismissal of Col. 2:14, 16 - 17 and Heb. 8:13 also as worthy of God's wrath against you for ignoring His Word in claiming that His divine Words here in those Scriptures is contradicted by His other Divine Words elsewhere in the Bible? Thank you

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Posted: May 13, 2008 5:47:08 PM
Dear Composer, [u][b]My repost so as not to evade questions not yet directly answered on absolute Spiritual truth on GOD's definite recognition. [/b][/u] [quote:7d7df2723b="almario1"][quote:7d7df2723b="Composer"] [b]By not being a J.W.([u]an absolute belief of almighty and mighty god[/u]), what is your definite recognition of GOD?[/b] [u][i]Faith![/i][/u] [b]Faith on [u]how many[/u][/b]? [i]Oh you wrote this:[/i] [u]You better be careful![/u] [i]Hope not a feeling of resentment or hurt pride.[/i][/quote] Deeply felt that absolute [b]true recognition[/b] thru humility on GOD's Words that HE commanded to be written is the most important Spiritual Truth to be revealed first before any other else. [b][u]G[/u][u]O[/u][u]D[/u]'s[/b] [u]Words[/u] on true recognition are indeed very fearsome. [i][u]Matthew 7:22[/u][/i] [b]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[/b] Matthew 7:23 [b]And then will I profess unto them, [u]I[/u] [u]never[/u] [u]knew[/u] [u]you[/u]: [u]depart from me[/u], [u]ye[/u] [u]that[/u] [u]work[/u] [u]iniquity.[/u][/b] [u][i]John 8:24[/i][/u] [b]I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.[/b][/quote]
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Posted: May 13, 2008 5:49:30 PM
What is that supposed to mean? Could you please try explaining what you are trying to convey in another way? Thank you

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Posted: May 13, 2008 6:22:59 PM
[quote:19964301a6="Composer"]What is that supposed to mean? Could you please try explaining what you are trying to convey in another way? Thank you[/quote] Just a plain question of how many GOD you believe by faith?
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