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The Father's Commandment To Jesus

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Posted Dec 24, 2007 at 8:47:35 AM
Subject: The Father's Commandment To Jesus
"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my Words, hath one that judgeth him, [b]the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day[/b]. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, [b]He gave me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak[/b]. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting:[b] whatsoever I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.[/b]" John 12:48-50. When Peter trusted in his own understanding, he attempted to counsel Jesus, that, He didn't need to die upon the cross. Jesus looked at him and said, "Get thee behind me, Satan...!" Mt 16:21-26. When James and John wanted to follow the example of Elijah (denominational precedent?) and call fire down from heaven, upon the Samaritans, Jesus said to them, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of!" Lu 9:54,55. When Judas followed the inclination of his heart, Satan filled it and he betrayed the Lord. Lu 22:3. These four disciples were with Jesus, 24/7, yet, when they trusted in their own understanding, became tools of Satan, who was attempting to thwart God's plan of salvation. So, with all due respect, who do we think we are with our various denominational traditions and opinions? Every doctrine should be studied Genesis-Revelation, before it is taught. This is not, usually, done, because we lack respect for God's holy Word. Jesus spoke, only, the Words, that, the Father gave Him to speak. "He that saith he abideth in Him, ought himself so to walk, even as He walked." 1 John 2:6. We will, each one, stand before our Lord Jesus Christ and give an account for how we lived and presented His "God Breathed" Word to mankind. 2 Tim 3:16. There is, only, one authority - His "God Breathed" Word.
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scott_baldwin29
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Posted: Dec 24, 2007 9:46:58 AM
Great, great observation. Hope many people would realize this.
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herald
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Posted: Dec 24, 2007 10:08:37 AM
Thank you...I love His Word because it brings us closer to Him.
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cristinolese
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Posted: Jan 07, 2008 6:24:53 AM
How many Bible believing people accept this truth? • Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. Did Jesus speak except in parables? • Mar 4:34 [size=18]But without a parable spake he not unto them:[/size] and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. Was Simon Peter, James, John, Paul, or any of the prophets authorized to expound on the words of our Lord? • Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and [size=18]when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.[/size] How does our Lord expound on His words? • Is it by explanation? It “is written,” it is by DEMONSTRATION and by DIVINE REVELATION that the chosen could discern the intended message. Examples: 1. When our Lord said, “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.” (Joh 2:19, 21, 22). What symbolizes the temple? What corresponds to the three days? 2. The distinction between “neighbor” and “fellowmen.” (Luk 10:25-36). Why was the victim leaving Jerusalem and going to Jericho? What significance do these two places have in the life of our Lord Jesus Christ? Who symbolizes the “priest and Levite, thieves? What symbolizes the raiment of the victim, oil and wine, an inn, the two pence, etc.? 3. The trees wanting to have a “king” (Judg 9:8-15) What symbolizes: The “trees,” A “king” The “olive tree” and “its fatness” The “fig tree” and its “sweetness and good fruit” The “vine” and its “wine that cheereth God and man” The “bramble” and its “shadow” “Fire out of the bramble” “Cedars of Lebanon” Plus many many illustrations that comprise the words of God in the Holy Bible! [quote:d082a73739="herald"]"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my Words, hath one that judgeth him, [b]the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day[/b]. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, [b]He gave me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak[/b]. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting:[b] whatsoever I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.[/b]" John 12:48-50. When Peter trusted in his own understanding, he attempted to counsel Jesus, that, He didn't need to die upon the cross. Jesus looked at him and said, "Get thee behind me, Satan...!" Mt 16:21-26. When James and John wanted to follow the example of Elijah (denominational precedent?) and call fire down from heaven, upon the Samaritans, Jesus said to them, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of!" Lu 9:54,55. When Judas followed the inclination of his heart, Satan filled it and he betrayed the Lord. Lu 22:3. These four disciples were with Jesus, 24/7, yet, when they trusted in their own understanding, became tools of Satan, who was attempting to thwart God's plan of salvation. So, with all due respect, who do we think we are with our various denominational traditions and opinions? Every doctrine should be studied Genesis-Revelation, before it is taught. This is not, usually, done, because we lack respect for God's holy Word. Jesus spoke, only, the Words, that, the Father gave Him to speak. "He that saith he abideth in Him, ought himself so to walk, even as He walked." 1 John 2:6. We will, each one, stand before our Lord Jesus Christ and give an account for how we lived and presented His "God Breathed" Word to mankind. 2 Tim 3:16. There is, only, one authority - His "God Breathed" Word.[/quote]
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Posted: Jan 08, 2008 5:28:41 AM
[quote:471a01837d="cristinolese"]How many Bible believing people accept this truth? • Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. Did Jesus speak except in parables? • Mar 4:34 [size=18]But without a parable spake he not unto them:[/size] and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. Was Simon Peter, James, John, Paul, or any of the prophets authorized to expound on the words of our Lord? • Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and [size=18]when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.[/size] How does our Lord expound on His words? • Is it by explanation? [/quote] Actually our Lord expounds on His words by DEMONSTRATION! Unknown to many there are two classes of people listening (reading the Holy Bible) to our Lord when He said, “Destroy this temple…” To the APOSTLES/DISCIPLES: • Joh 2:21 But he spake of the [b]temple [/b]of his [b]body[/b]. • Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; [b]and they believed the scripture[/b], and the word which Jesus had said. To the JEWS: To these people, unwittingly, they received negative importance to the words of our Lord. * Mat 27:39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, * Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. [b]If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. [/b] To the JEWS, for our Lord to say, “I am the Son of God,” [size=18]He was already making Himself God knowing that there is only One True God.[/size] Therefore Jesus was accused of blasphemy that caused His death. Today, everybody is saying and believes “Jesus is the Son of God.” Many no longer look at this as blasphemy, but a compliment to our Lord Jesus. But has our Lord Jesus revealed to them His second role as FATHER God Himself, when at that moment on the CROSS, [b]He was about to fulfill His TESTAMENT of salvation?[/b] Who made this TESTAMENT or COVENANT of salvation, the SON or the FATHER? (In Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Leviticus, Deuteronomy the maker or testator is revealed.) What is needed for the maker of the testament in its fulfillment? • Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also [b]of necessity be the death of the testator. [/b] Who claims to have fulfilled this testament of salvation? Is not FATHER GOD speaking in the following? (No one would say it is the Son.) • Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and [size=18]beside[/size] me there is no saviour. According to FATHER God, is there a person [b]beside[/b] Him sitting at His right hand? Then what is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
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