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Glorifying God

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Posted Feb 22, 2006 at 4:00:24 PM
Subject: Glorifying God
[color=darkblue][size=18]Brethren, After receiving the INHERITANCE promised by God in His TESTAMENT, thereby making it possible for us to pass the TWO TESTS for spirits, what is God’s revelation to you to GLORIFY Him in return? I suppose all of us have this OBSESSION. [/size][/color]
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Posted: Feb 24, 2006 6:09:37 AM
Yes I feel the obsession of glorifying God. But I don't know how and where to begin because there are many verses by which we can glorify God written in the Old and New Testament books. [quote:14821149b3="cristinolese"][color=darkblue][size=18]Brethren, After receiving the INHERITANCE promised by God in His TESTAMENT, thereby making it possible for us to pass the TWO TESTS for spirits, what is God’s revelation to you to GLORIFY Him in return? I suppose all of us have this OBSESSION. [/size][/color][/quote]
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sandra3102
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Posted: Feb 25, 2006 4:40:11 PM
There are many verses in the Old Testament where God was directing His chosen to OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS, LAWS, etc. but I read in: Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. And, James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. In the New Testament our Lord directed His Disciples to follow Him, plus some more, but this is too general. I would like to hear from you the more specific or definite way of glorifying God.
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art.barga
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Posted: Mar 01, 2006 7:57:05 PM
John 15:8 "Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. And another verse that says can glorify God is; Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. As it is written on above verses, after having received the inheritance from God, the recipient of it can glorify Him in return by "bearing much fruit and letting your light shine before men". What could be these "light" and fruit" mentioned on the preceding verses for it is known that God is speaking in "parables" as it is also written on following verses? Psalms 78:2 " I will open my I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Matthew 13:35 "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Let everyone be aware that the law of God is as it is written on verses; Romans 7:14 "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. And hereunder verses have more to say about the law of God Romans 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:3 "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Romans 8:4 "That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:8 "So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:10 "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. Romans 8:11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. These are in relation/reference to verses; Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. Wherein the essential point is as it is written on; 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." Thus fruit pertains to spiritual things God, and there will be no fruits other than of the Lord's Spirit as written in; Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith," Galatians 5:23 "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." And those fruits should manifest to those who received (children of God) the inheritance (God-Jesus Christ) for it is written; 1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God..." 1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you..." These are not the love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance as perceived by natural man but according to God. As for love: 2 John 1:6 "And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment," That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." Romans 13:10 "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: "therefore love is the fulfilling of the law". Romans 13:8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law." As for joy and peace, (please read article Happiness, Joy and Peace in this website) and for the rest let us wait for the revelations of God. What about the light? Who is the light? Let the word speak as written; John 12:46 "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. Isaiah 60:19 "The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. 1 John 1:5 "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. Brethren this is the reason why God wants His children's lights shine 2 Corinthians 4:6 "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. And how are the children of God can let their lights shine, is it not this as written? Isaiah 58:6 "Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Isaiah 58:7 "Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? By doing the above tasks that only then the children of God's lights shine Isaiah 58:8 "Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
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Posted: Mar 03, 2006 7:24:42 AM
Of all people, the Scribes and Pharisees were the worst in the eyes of our Lord. He called them: Mat 23:33 [color=blue]Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? [/color] We never heard our Lord tell this to the murderers, the adulteresses, the thieves and robbers in the eyes of man. But from among the Scribes and Pharisees did we see Nicodemus, Paul, and a Scribe in Mark 12:28 who asked Him, “Which is the first commandment of all?” Mar 12:29 [color=darkred]And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, HEAR, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: [/color] Mar 12:30 [color=darkred]And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [/color] Mar 12:31 [color=darkred]And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. [/color] Mar 12:32 [color=darkred]And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: [/color] Mar 12:33 [color=darkred]And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. [/color] Our Lord must have been satisfied with what He saw in this humble Scribe: Mar 12:34 [color=darkred]And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God…”[/color] From Paul is revealed that the chosen are the temple of God: 1 Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 1 Cor 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Therefore I imagine a real believer like a “house” and our Lord Jesus, as carpenter, is constructing it. Just as a house has three major components or sections, so are the THREE STEPS that our Lord enumerated, where from the looks of it, Jesus Christ was happy saying: “Thou art not far from the kingdom of God…” The FIRST is the “foundation of the house” for the “first commandment, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.” From all appearances, we have already glorified our Lord on this for we “heard His voice” intently that now, our Lord and God no longer is a mystery. (Nobody among the outsiders (1 Cor. 2:14) can claim this.” The SECOND “component of the house” is composed of the posts, walls, and roof, for “loving the Lord our God with all our heart, and with all our soul, and with all our mind, and with all our strength.” This is were find many verses both in the Old and New Testament books enjoining the chosen “to do this and to do that…” The THIRD “component of the house” makes up the paint, curtains, and decorations that are a delight to the eyes. Does not this third and last component correspond to the following? 1 Cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. 1 Joh 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? It is quite clear that God is after “love of our NEIGHBOUR.” This is to be distinguished from love of fellowmen that Natural Man (1 Cor. 2:14) understands. For how can we “love our neighbour” if we have not yet satisfied the FIRST and the SECOND STEPS, or how can we paint the house, put curtains and decorations without the foundation. These are the components required that “satisfy the eyes?” And so: “WHO IS MY NEIGHBOUR?” http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Who_is_My_Neighbour%3F • What difference is there between “neighbour” and “fellowmen?” • Why were the PRIEST and LEVITE not able to follow the commandment, "Love thy neighbour," when they were the epitome of righteousness and godliness in the eyes of men? • What did the inquiring Scribe (lawyer) miss in his scrutiny of the commandments? I hope this is our Lord's revelation. In the final analysis, glorifying God is to be a faithful partner as wife (Isa. 54:5) in the harvest of souls. After all this is His purpose in creating man in order to have eternal companions. [quote:ab9723d4bd="art.barga"]John 15:8 "Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. And another verse that says can glorify God is; Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. As it is written on above verses, after having received the inheritance from God, the recipient of it can glorify Him in return by "bearing much fruit and letting your light shine before men". What could be these "light" and fruit" mentioned on the preceding verses for it is known that God is speaking in "parables" as it is also written on following verses? Psalms 78:2 " I will open my I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Matthew 13:35 "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Let everyone be aware that the law of God is as it is written on verses; Romans 7:14 "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. And hereunder verses have more to say about the law of God Romans 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:3 "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Romans 8:4 "That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:8 "So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:10 "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. Romans 8:11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. These are in relation/reference to verses; Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. Wherein the essential point is as it is written on; 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." Thus fruit pertains to spiritual things God, and there will be no fruits other than of the Lord's Spirit as written in; Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith," Galatians 5:23 "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." And those fruits should manifest to those who received (children of God) the inheritance (God-Jesus Christ) for it is written; 1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God..." 1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you..." These are not the love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance as perceived by natural man but according to God. As for love: 2 John 1:6 "And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment," That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." Romans 13:10 "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: "therefore love is the fulfilling of the law". Romans 13:8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law." As for joy and peace, (please read article Happiness, Joy and Peace in this website) and for the rest let us wait for the revelations of God. What about the light? Who is the light? Let the word speak as written; John 12:46 "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. Isaiah 60:19 "The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. 1 John 1:5 "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. Brethren this is the reason why God wants His children's lights shine 2 Corinthians 4:6 "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. And how are the children of God can let their lights shine, is it not this as written? Isaiah 58:6 "Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Isaiah 58:7 "Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? By doing the above tasks that only then the children of God's lights shine Isaiah 58:8 "Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.[/quote]
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Posted: Mar 04, 2006 9:50:51 AM
Subject: Only now
[color=darkblue]When I was still affiliated with sects, I read the following verses and never thought they were intended to “open my eyes” to the truth. It is only now, and I pity my co-members who do not want to “hear the word” of our Lord. Prov 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. It is very clear that our Lord's miracles are the opening of the “spiritual eyes and ears,” in order to be able to “walk the spiritual way.”[/color]
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