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- Did not people before try to "reach God"? Are not people today doing the same thing?

- Can they "understand" each other?


Jan 09, 1996

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Jesus Christ is God

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Posted Jan 05, 2006 at 11:16:02 PM
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…Awake to Righteousness, and sin not ; for some have not the Knowledge of God : I speak this to your shame (1 Corinthians 15 :34). Jesus Christ is God, who did manifest himself into the flesh as a man. The So Called Son Is God Himself, The Holy Spirit and The Everlasting Father: It is written in the first John’s Epistle (5 :20) : “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an undestanding, that we may know Him that is True, even his Son Jesus Christ. This is the True God and Eternal Life”. Let us pay much attention when we read, for the so called Son (Luke 1 :35), this is the True God and Eternal Life ; then, why is He called Son ?. The begining of the answer to this question is written in the book of Isaiah the prophet (7 :14) : “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign ; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son and shall call his name Im - man - u- el”. (Which being interpreted is God with us) ; thus we may read (Isaiah 8 :10) “Take counsel together, and it shall not stand : for God is with us”. Because of that the Son which brought forth the virgin it is written with raised S (Son) ; and it is make fast that the Son is God himself dwelling into an Human Body. The former become more clear when Isaiah 9 :6 is searched out : “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given : and the govermment shall be upon his shoulder ; and his name shall be called Wonderful (1 Peter 2 :9), Counsellor (*), the Mighty God (Isaiah 60 :16), the Everlasting Father (**), the Prince of Peace (John 14 :27 and John 16 :33). On the same wise as above, in the first Paul’s Epistle to Timothy (3 :16) it is written : “And without controversy great is the mystery of Godliness : God did manifest himself in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen of angels, Preached unto the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up into Glory”. While in the same Epistle (6 :14-16) we may read : “... until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ : which in his times He shall shew, Who is the Blessed and only Potentade, the King of kings and Lord of lords (see Revelation 19 :16) ; Who only hath inmortatily, dwelling in the Light which no man hath seen nor can see (if God should not manifest himself) : to Whom be honour and power everlasting, A - men”. (*): Isaiah 46:9-11; Acts 20:27; Psalm 73:24; Psalm 119:24; Proverbs 19:21; Isaiah 25:1; Hebrews 6:17; Proverbs 13:1; Isaiah 40.13; Romans 11.34. (**): John 14:7-10; John 10:30; Isaiah 64:8; Isaiah 63:16; Deuteronomy 32:6; Mattew 6:9; Mattew 5:48; Ephesians 4:6; Revelations 14:1; Proverbs 30:4; Proverbs 13:1; Exodus 23:20-21. The Everlasting Father Is The Light and Truth: In the book of Psalms (48 :14) it is written : “For this God is our God for ever and ever : He will be our Guide unto (beyong) death” (see Matthew 27 :50-53). Now, we can find the same meaning in the John’s Gospel (12 :45-46) : “And he that seeth Me seeth Him that sent Me. I am come the Light into the world, that whosoever believeth on Me should not abide in darkness”. And in the Psalm 43 :3 : “O send out thy Light and thy Truth : let Them lead me, let Them bring me unto thy Holy Hill ; and to thy tabernacles”. Whereas in the Luke’s Gospel (1 :78-79) we may read : “Through the tender Mercy of God, whereby the Daysping from on high hath visited us. To give Light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the Way of Peace”. The Son Of Man Is The Carnal Manifestation of The Holy Spirit: Therefore, in the John’s Gospel (10 :30) Jesus Christ makes fast “I and my Father are one” ; while in 10 :38 “... that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in Me, and I in Him”. Moreover, in 3 :13 Jesus Christ speaks to Nicodemus and tells him : “And no man ascended up to heaven ; but He that came down from heaven (Holy Spirit), even the Son of man (keep in your mind : Son of man which is the carnal manifestation of the Holy Spirit), which is heaven” (Holy Spirit). And in John 14 :6-7 we read : “I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me”. (Please, put attention because it is written cometh rather than goeth) “If ye had known Me, ye should have known my Father also ; and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him”. He That Hath Seen Me Hath Seen The Father: But, “Phillip saith unto Him, Lord , shew us the Father, and it sufficeth (will satisfy) us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not know Me, Phillip ? he that hath seen Me (carnal manifestation of the Holy Spirit) hath seen the Father (the Holy Spirit), and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father ?. Believest thou not that I Am in the Father, and the Father in Me ? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of Myself : but the Father that dwelleth in Me, He doeth the works" (John 14 :8-10) However in John 14 :13-14 ; He speaks as follows : “And whatsoever ye shall ask in my Name (Jesus Christ), that will I do ...” Let us think that He says “that will I do” rather than “that shall He do”. Jesus Christ Is God And Saviour: Peter, in his second Epistle (1 :1) says openly and plainly that Jesus Christ is God : “Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious Faith with us through the Righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ”. Peter says both that Jesus Christ is God and Saviour ; which is right as we may see in Matthew (1 :21) that Jesus means Saviour, or better still Yahweh Saves or Yahweh will Save ; whereas in Matthew 1 :23 it is written. “... and they shall call his name EMMANUEL ; which being interpreted is God whith us”. (Remember Isaiah 7 :14). On this wise (Matthew 2 :2) the wise men from the east make fast that He is a King and that Them became there to Worship Him. (the Genuine Believers worship to God only ; see Matthew 4 :10 ; Deuteronomy 6 :4-5 ; Revelation 22 :8-9). While Job (13 :16) says : “He also (Jehovah or Yahweh) shall be my Salvation” ; as well as in the Luke’s Gospel (2 :28-30) “the just and devout Simeon took the child up in his arms, and Blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy Word ; for mine eyes have seen thy Salvation”. In addition Paul, likewise Peter does, says many times that Jesus Christ is God Himself. Paul wrote to Titus : “Looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ” (Titus 2 :13 ; see Romans 9 :1-5 ; 1 Timothy 3 :16 ; Colossians 2 :8-13 ; Hebrews 13 :8 ; Titus 3 :4-6 ; 1 Corinthians 12 :4-6). One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism: Moreover, Paul wrote (2 Corinthians 3 :17), “Now the Lord is the Spirit : and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty (see John 4 :24 and John 8 :32). Thus we see that there is only One Lord and only One Spirit, “One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Ephesians 4 :5-6). “And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby we are sealed unto the day of Redemption” (Ephesians 4 :30). “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His” (Romans 8 :9). As we see, at this point Paul does not make any difference between the Spirit of God and Christ’s, because it is the same Holy Spirit ; further more (please read slowly) it is not written “he is none of Them”, but “he is none of His” as of One and not as of more than One. Now, the question is : Who is He, God or Christ ?. The answer is : There is only One, Who is come into the flesh. There is no other God. For there are diversities of Gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord” (1 Corinthians 12 :4-5). “And there are diversiries of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all” (1 Corinthians 12 :6). Paul wrote unto the Galatians (4 :6) : “And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father”. It was made fast above that the Holy Spirit is the same always (1 Corinthians 12 :4) and that the Holy Spirit is God (2 Corinthians 3 :17 and John 4 :24). Therefore, the Spirit of the Son is the same Spirit as the Father, which the Lord sends upon them that invoke Jesus Christ’s Name (This is the Holy Name of God), as it came to pass the day of Pentecost (Acts 2 :1-47) as well as when the Holy Spirit fell upon Cornelius and all of them which, beside him, were hearing the Word of God (Acts 10 :1-8) ; thus it was accomplished that which had spoken the prophet Joel (2 :28-29) : “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will Pour Out My Spirit upon all flesh (see Philippians 1 :19) ... and it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord shall be Saved ...”. As regards the Name of the Lord, Peter (Acts 4 :10-12) says openly that there is none other Name (but Jesus Christ) under heaven given among men, whereby we must be Saved. There Is None Other Name, But Jesus Christ, To Be Saved: The prophet Jeremiah makes fast (10 :10) ; “But the Lord is the True God (see 1 John 5 :20). He is the Living God and an Everlasting King ; while in the book of Zephaniah (3 :15) it is written : “The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, He hath cast out thine enemy : the King of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee : thou shall not see evil any more”. Further (3 :17-20) : “The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is Mighty (see Isaiah 9 :6) ; He will Save” (see Jude 1 :25) “... In his days Judah shall be Saved, and Israel shall dwell Safely : and this is the Name whereby He shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness” (Jeremiah 23 :6). “... And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God, we have waited for Him, and He will Save us ; this is the Lord, we have waited for Him, we will be Glad and Rejoice in his Salvation” (Isaiah 25 :9 ; see also Isaiah 25 :8 ; Isaiah 43 :3 ; Isaiah 43 :10-11 ; Isaiah 43 :25 ; Isaiah 44 :8 ; Isaiah 44 :24 ; Isaiah 45 :5-6 ; Isaiah 45 :13-25 and Revelation 21 :4). In Isaiah 45 :23 we may read : “... That unto Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear”. Now, the former was said by Jehovah or Yahweh ; and if you have read Isaiah 42 :8, you should perceive that the Lord Jehovah doesn’t give his Glory to another, neither his Praise to graven images (idols). As regards this, Paul makes fast (Romans 14 :7-11) that Christ is the Lord and that we must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ, every knee shall bow before Him and every tongue shall confess to God. Further more, in Philippians 2 :10-11, we may read : “That at the Name of Jesus Christ every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of God the Father (see Isaiah 45 :23 and 1 Corinthians 12 :4-6). Whom Have They Pierced? Whereas, Jehovah through the prophet Zechariah, says : “... And they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced” ; as we see, it was pierced Jehovah Himself ; which is written on this way in John 19 :37 ; Revelation 1:7 ; Titus 2 :10-14. Paul in his Epistle to the Hebrews (9 :16-17) wrote about this as follows : “For where a Testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the Testator. For a Testament is of force after men are dead ; otherwise it is of no strength at all while the Testator liveth” (see also Hebrews 9 :28). Let us think, Who that did The Promise or Testament (Covenant) is God, in other words Jehovah (or Yahweh), did the Testament. Therefore He is the Testator, so God Himself had to die and, to shed His Blood (for without shedding of Blood there is no forgiveness of sins) that we might obtain The Promise, which is the Everlasting Life. But, could God to die being Everlasting, having neither beginning of days nor end of Life ?. Moreover, God is Spirit, He is not a person whom it is possible to slay !. Therefore, the Holy Spirit took a human body (do you remember that Jesus Christ is called Son of man ?), thus He shed his Blood ; wherefore it is written (1 Peter 2 :24) : “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we being dead to sins, should live unto Righteousness ; by whose stripes (wounds) ye were Healed (see Isaiah 53 :5). Paul on this wise, makes fast (Colossians 2 :9-10) : “For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead Bodily. And ye are complete in Him, which is the Head of all Principality and Power”. Jesus Christ, even the Lord God, grants you humility to accept Him that you may receive his Holy Spirit, be baptized and go into the Everlasting Life. A - men.

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Who is Jesus Christ? • To clearly and truly identify JESUS CHRIST, it needs divine revelation: Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the [color=red][b]CHRIST[/b][/color], the [color=red][b]SON[/b][/color] of the living God. Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: [size=18][color=red]FOR FLESH AND BLOOD HATH NOT REVEALED IT UNTO THEE, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN[/color][/size][/size]. • To be endowed with divine revelation of the inspired word of God, we have to humble ourselves like “babes” as the Apostles of Christ did: Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because [color=blue]thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast [/color][color=red][size=18]REVEALED THEM UNTO BABES[/size][/color]. • This was also true in the Old Testament: Isa 28:9 (KJV only) Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? [size=18][color=red]THEM THAT ARE WEANED FROM THE MILK, AND DRAWN FROM THE BREASTS[/color][/size]. • Jesus Christ of the (original) Apostles is different from Jesus Christ being preached by modern apostles: JESUS CHRIST OF THE (ORIGINAL) APOSTLES http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Jesus_of_the_%28Original%29_Apostles • People are forewarned regarding the preaching of “another Jesus.” , 2 Cor 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth [color=blue][size=18]ANOTHER JESUS[/size][/color], whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. • Today there are several “Jesus” being preached by modern apostles. The second part of the following article reveals these man-made doctrines about Jesus Christ: THE GOD OF THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/God_of_the_Old_and_New_Testament • For a wholesome conversation with God regarding His identity, read the following article: GOD IDENTIFYING HIMSELF! Shall we not listen to Him? http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/God_Identifying_Himself%21 • Because of human wisdom which is condemned by God, confusion in the religion founded by Christ arouse regarding His identity. Try this article: LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Let_Us_Make_Man_in_Our_Image • Many people unwittingly worship Satan because of spiritual blindness. Please read this article: CHRIST AND SATAN IN CONTRAST http://www.purechristianity.org/index.php/news/Christ_and_Satan_in_Contrast [size=12][/size]
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Hernan 777, In Joel 2:32, it has been said that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered... BUT, whom the Lord shall call. Here, we can see that the "first move" comes to the Lord. The Lord calls for those who, according to His foreknowledge, shall humble themselves before Him and be willing to be like a soft clay (or little child), be molded by the Potter,... put into the fire,...... to later be a "stone." Ezekiel 34:14 "I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel." In Ezekiel 34:16, God said that He seeks for which was lost and eventually feed them in a good pasture ... by the Israel ( the Bible did not use the plural "Israel's" because the the chosen people of God are one in Christ). Malachi 3:10 "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." The Lord as soon as He have sought a "clay," creates a "circumstances" wherein He can feed him/her (or the house) with meat (or the word of God) in the storehouse (or "household of God), by the Israel. The "blessing" promised is "wisdom:" 1 Corinthians 9:14 " Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel." Those that preach the gospel should should live by the "gospel of Christ" not "adding or taking away" the "message of God." According to how we follow the command, we shall be measured, and again ( be measured) and will be given "spiritual wisdom" (according to our measurement): Luke 6:38 "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." It is the Lord Himself that seeks for His sheeps so that "The Lord is my shepperd I shall not want." The people (or land or tree) tithings are His chosen, and the "word" (or seed) and the "fruit of the tree" (or fruit of the Holy Spirit ) are His (is the Lord's): Leviticus 27:30 "And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD." Tithings or "preaching the gospel" because it is a commandment and the commandment holy, It will be holy unto the Lord if the one tithings, is a stone full of spiritual wisdom. Preaching that we can be saved in the literal name of God is like a devil in stand, ....coming up out of the earth (or people): James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. " Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. "
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