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fil3232003
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Posted: Oct 21, 2005 3:27:37 PM
[color=darkblue]Adlemi, I am glad with our discussion regarding the identity of God. Without mutual recognition of the One True God, there cannot be a common understanding of His words. God gave us the following tests: First test - Identity of the true Christ: 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. To you, who is JESUS CHRIST come in the flesh? • The Father, or • The Son? Second test – Since Satan is the great counterfeiter, God gave us this test to see whether the Christ we worship speaks the same “language” of the True Christ: Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns [b]like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon[/b]. What is the “language of Jesus Christ” after identifying Him? Please give examples by demonstration.[/color]
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adlemsot
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Posted: Oct 22, 2005 10:04:58 AM
Subject: John 14:6
The fear of the Lord is the beginninng of wisdom and this is true both in the biblical way, for it is so written, and in the Godlical way for it is what the Lord is looking for to those who are seeking God in accordance with His will. Wisdom cometh only from the mouth of the Lord and blessed are they whose delight is only the Lord God.   Via biblical way, the verses in John 10:30; I Cor. 10:4; Fil. 2 : 5 - 8; and Rev. 1:8 are testifying that the Lord God Almighty in the Old Testament is no other than the Lord Jesus Christ and that the Lord Jesus Christ came in the flesh and the flesh being mentioned here is no other than the flesh born out of Mary. The Father and the Son are one, meaning Jesus Christ is the Father and Son at the same time.   Via Godlical way, The Father is the Son and the Son is the Father and the Father and Son is the Lord God Almighty and His name is Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world.   Language per se, via the Godlical way the Lord God Almighty no other than the Lord Jesus said, the father of this world (Satan) speaks vague and always beat around bush and if he speaks in my behalf saying I am he, he will get inflamed and get himself burned.   I will just limit my post up to this point and my sincere apology if this may not suffice your expectations. [b][i]fil3232003 &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Adlemi, I am glad with our discussion regarding the identity of God. Without mutual recognition of the One True God, there cannot be a common understanding of His words. God gave us the following tests: First test - Identity of the true Christ: 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. To you, who is JESUS CHRIST come in the flesh? • The Father, or • The Son? Second test – Since Satan is the great counterfeiter, God gave us this test to see whether the Christ we worship speaks the same “language” of the True Christ: Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. What is the “language of Jesus Christ” after identifying Him? Please give examples by demonstration. [/quote]
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fil3232003
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Posted: Oct 22, 2005 10:32:51 AM
[color=darkblue]Adlemi, You hit the "nail on the head," so to speak, by saying:[/color] [color=darkred]"...the father of this world (Satan) speaks vague and always beat around bush and if he speaks in my behalf saying I am he, he will get inflamed and get himself burned."[/color] [color=darkblue]If you will notice, participants in this forum after having humbled themselves like "babes" (Matt. 11:25), they are endowed with divine knwoledge and wisdom that no longer are they "beating around the bush," but like "speaker system" we hear from them the "voice of the Lamb" as if "He is speaking over the microphone" by citing the "written words of God." [/color]
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mrwilson37
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Posted: Oct 22, 2005 2:18:22 PM
Subject: John 14:6
Adlemi;   This is how we depend on the entire words in the bible as represented by God 1st witness. In order for us to attain peace, prosperity and sustainable environment is to resolve every problem that had been done by us. It is not the role of God but us ( John 6:63 The flesh profiteth nothing ). Being the basis, if it contradicts even only a word in the bible is not from God. This is how we give importance to the entire words in the bible.  [b][i]Adlemi Sotnas &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Definitely, I am waiting for the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ for it is this event which will be the fulfillment of the promises  of the Lord to His flock or the elect and so on. One thing I do keep in my heart today is the very recent message which I did receive from the Lord thru dreams in which the message clearly stated to me that the only cure or remedy that mankind may do now to attain peace, prosperity, and  sustainable environment is for all of us to have "LOVE" in our heart and in our soul. I am glad that you are also talking now about this four letter word that all of us badly needed in our heart, in our soul, in our thoughts, and in our deeds. Be it in the physical or in the spiritual, "LOVE" can conquer all of these mean behavior and characteristics of mankind should we really humbled ourselves before the Lord God..   As I said, I am now for a friendly discussion and let us show that "LOVE" resides in our heart, in our soul, in our thougts and in our deeds. Let us all be one in promoting "LOVE" with each other. Truly and I do agree with you that anything not of the Lord God Almighty is useless and in vain and will further bring us or lead us to destruction and tribulation. Let us take good care of our soul and spirit which will be with the Lord in the near future should we passed the trials set before us by the Lord in our life or same will be with the boiling sea of fire and water  in hell should we failed to pass the trials set before us by the Lord God in our life. I am glad that all of us here believe that God is real and alive.   Thanks for your brotherly love and concern and may God be with you always.  fil3232003 wrote: [quote] Adlemi, Thank you for your reply. I suppose all participants in this forum are one in trying to obey the commandment, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." This after having humbled themselves, and through a "miracle," as God did to Simon Peter (Matt. 16:16-17), clearly recognized JESUS. This was followed with the "divine revelation" of the "spirit" of the word that "giveth life" (2 Cor. 3:6) in: 1 Cor 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 1 Cor 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. It is through this "great message of God of His words" that love for Him is manifested -- in His sight (not man's). That is why they realized real praise to Him through "His words". Psa 56:10 In God will I praise his word: in the LORD will I praise his word. With all these truth did our Lord show His true followers. Then the last sequence in love, that of "love of neighbor." It is hoped God revealed to you that "Neighbor" to God is not "fellowmen" as the Natural Man understands. "Neighbor" refers to the current and potential "poor in spirit" (Matt. 5:3) as exemplified by the "victim" of the thieves in the parable of the Good Samaritan who was "leaving Jerusalem and going to Jericho." Again, it is hoped God revealed to you the hidden message of this. If not, you may post your question on this point. Let us remember recognizing Jesus requires “the revelation of the Father” and never should it come "from flesh and blood" (Matt. 16:16-17), thereby recognizing Father God also (John 8:19). Now, are you still waiting for the SECOND COMING of Christ? For you is our divinely inspired love. [/quote] Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. (http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=36035/*http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/) [/quote]
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Posted: Oct 22, 2005 2:36:41 PM
[color=darkblue]I hope you allow me in your discussion regarding the question as to who “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.” In the beginning I thought it was the Son who manifested Himself in the flesh. Wherever I read the Bible then, this is what came to my mind. However, after I carefully followed up God’ s promise of salvation, perhaps this is the kind of humility that is acceptable to God, my perception is reversed. Wherever I read the Holy Bible now, I could see our Lord Jesus (in the flesh) is the very God that I read in the Old Testament. I realized this is the difference between “flesh and blood” and the “revelation of the Father” that our Lord told Peter when he identified Him. At no other time in my life do I enjoy reading the Holy Bible as it is now after I have clearly identified our Lord Jesus. Thanks be to God, my Lord. Sandie[/color]
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Posted: Oct 25, 2005 5:59:48 PM
Subject: John 14:6
Go on and keep on moving with what is deep inside your heart and wish that you hit the nail right on  its head, meaning I wish that you be saved having the faith that is within you now. Good luck and God bless you. [b][i]wilfredo molina &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Adlemi;   This is how we depend on the entire words in the bible as represented by God 1st witness. In order for us to attain peace, prosperity and sustainable environment is to resolve every problem that had been done by us. It is not the role of God but us ( John 6:63 The flesh profiteth nothing ). Being the basis, if it contradicts even only a word in the bible is not from God. This is how we give importance to the entire words in the bible.  Adlemi Sotnas wrote: [quote] Definitely, I am waiting for the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ for it is this event which will be the fulfillment of the promises  of the Lord to His flock or the elect and so on. One thing I do keep in my heart today is the very recent message which I did receive from the Lord thru dreams in which the message clearly stated to me that the only cure or remedy that mankind may do now to attain peace, prosperity, and  sustainable environment is for all of us to have "LOVE" in our heart and in our soul. I am glad that you are also talking now about this four letter word that all of us badly needed in our heart, in our soul, in our thoughts, and in our deeds. Be it in the physical or in the spiritual, "LOVE" can conquer all of these mean behavior and characteristics of mankind should we really humbled ourselves before the Lord God..   As I said, I am now for a friendly discussion and let us show that "LOVE" resides in our heart, in our soul, in our thougts and in our deeds. Let us all be one in promoting "LOVE" with each other. Truly and I do agree with you that anything not of the Lord God Almighty is useless and in vain and will further bring us or lead us to destruction and tribulation. Let us take good care of our soul and spirit which will be with the Lord in the near future should we passed the trials set before us by the Lord in our life or same will be with the boiling sea of fire and water  in hell should we failed to pass the trials set before us by the Lord God in our life. I am glad that all of us here believe that God is real and alive.   Thanks for your brotherly love and concern and may God be with you always.  fil3232003 wrote: &gt; Adlemi, &gt; &gt; Thank you for your reply. I suppose all participants in this forum are one in trying to obey the commandment, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." This after having humbled themselves, and through a "miracle," as God did to Simon Peter (Matt. 16:16-17), clearly recognized JESUS. This was followed with the "divine revelation" of the "spirit" of the word that "giveth life" (2 Cor. 3:6) in: &gt; &gt; 1 Cor 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. &gt; &gt; 1 Cor 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. &gt; &gt; It is through this "great message of God of His words" that love for Him is manifested -- in His sight (not man's). That is why they realized real praise to Him through "His words". &gt; &gt; Psa 56:10 In God will I praise his word: in the LORD will I praise his word. &gt; &gt; With all these truth did our Lord show His true followers. Then the last sequence in love, that of "love of neighbor." It is hoped God revealed to you that "Neighbor" to God is not "fellowmen" as the Natural Man understands. "Neighbor" refers to the current and potential "poor in spirit" (Matt. 5:3) as exemplified by the "victim" of the thieves in the parable of the Good Samaritan who was "leaving Jerusalem and going to Jericho." Again, it is hoped God revealed to you the hidden message of this. If not, you may post your question on this point. &gt; &gt; Let us remember recognizing Jesus requires &#8220;the revelation of the Father&#8221; and never should it come "from flesh and blood" (Matt. 16:16-17), thereby recognizing Father God also (John 8:19). Now, are you still waiting for the SECOND COMING of Christ? &gt; &gt; For you is our divinely inspired love. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [/quote]
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Posted: Oct 25, 2005 6:19:23 PM
Subject: John 14:6
Like a fortress fortified with the best quality materials available, you must not be easily moved nor shaken by any spiritual battle even to Satan and his devils who are on a 24-hour red alert status against the children of God. If God is with you, who can overcome the One who is with you - nobody. God is real and alive and be glad that you are banking on the One who is real and alive - the Lord God Almighty.  Come and let us draw ourselves nigh to the Lord God Almighty always and forever and let us learn more, more, and very much from Him, the Lord God of all.   God bless you all and to you Sandie who said, the Lord God of the Old testament is Jesus (in the flesh). It is really Jesus who is the Lord God Almighty of all ages, be it in heaven or of this world. [b][i]fil3232003 &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Adlemi, You hit the "nail on the head," so to speak, by saying: "...the father of this world (Satan) speaks vague and always beat around bush and if he speaks in my behalf saying I am he, he will get inflamed and get himself burned." If you will notice, participants in this forum after having humbled themselves like "babes" (Matt. 11:25), they are endowed with divine knwoledge and wisdom that no longer are they "beating around the bush," but like "speaker system" we hear from them the "voice of the Lamb" as if "He is speaking over the microphone" by citing the "written words of God." [/quote]
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Posted: Oct 25, 2005 8:19:08 PM
Subject: John 14:6
I just hope, as members of the flock, under one Shepherd, we speak "His language" and no other. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adlemi Sotnas" &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt; To: bibletalk@purechristianity.org Subject: RE: John 14:6 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:19:24 -0600 [quote] Like a fortress fortified with the best quality materials available, you must not be easily moved nor shaken by any spiritual battle even to Satan and his devils who are on a 24-hour red alert status against the children of God. If God is with you, who can overcome the One who is with you - nobody. God is real and alive and be glad that you are banking on the One who is real and alive - the Lord God Almighty.  Come and let us draw ourselves nigh to the Lord God Almighty always and forever and let us learn more, more, and very much from Him, the Lord God of all.   God bless you all and to you Sandie who said, the Lord God of the Old testament is Jesus (in the flesh). It is really Jesus who is the Lord God Almighty of all ages, be it in heaven or of this world. fil3232003 &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt; wrote: &gt; Adlemi, &gt; &gt; You hit the "nail on the head," so to speak, by saying: &gt; &gt; "...the father of this world (Satan) speaks vague and always beat &gt; around bush and if he speaks in my behalf saying I am he, he will &gt; get inflamed and get himself burned." &gt; &gt; If you will notice, participants in this forum after having &gt; humbled themselves like "babes" (Matt. 11:25), they are endowed &gt; with divine knwoledge and wisdom that no longer are they "beating &gt; around the bush," but like "speaker system" we hear from them the &gt; "voice of the Lamb" as if "He is speaking over the microphone" by &gt; citing the "written words of God." [/quote]
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Posted: Oct 26, 2005 11:53:58 AM
Subject: John 14:6
Rejoice in the Lord always and fight the good  fight of faith that our only Good Pastor, the Lord  God Almighty has enriched our mind. If the Lord Jesus is our only Good Pastor in our life and that we received Him in our heart and our mind, rest assured that it is the Lord who will be guiding us all the way and most of all, the Lord Jesus is the one speaking to us and not the devil or Satan. Hope then in our heart will be like a concrete retaining wall resisting the forces of nature like water and earth. Remember always that there is only One Lord, One God, and one flock under One Spirit available for mankind. If there is anything more than this fact, it is none other than the mere belief and wisdom of man about God who  on the contrary is still unknown to them. But since it is God who is already in our heart now, I would say let us again rejoice in the Lord always.     [b][i]Sandra Miller &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote] I just hope, as members of the flock, under one Shepherd, we speak "His language" and no other. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adlemi Sotnas" To: bibletalk@purechristianity.org Subject: RE: John 14:6 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:19:24 -0600 [quote] Like a fortress fortified with the best quality materials available, you must not be easily moved nor shaken by any spiritual battle even to Satan and his devils who are on a 24-hour red alert status against the children of God. If God is with you, who can overcome the One who is with you - nobody. God is real and alive and be glad that you are banking on the One who is real and alive - the Lord God Almighty.  Come and let us draw ourselves nigh to the Lord God Almighty always and forever and let us learn more, more, and very much from Him, the Lord God of all.   God bless you all and to you Sandie who said, the Lord God of the Old testament is Jesus (in the flesh). It is really Jesus who is the Lord God Almighty of all ages, be it in heaven or of this world. fil3232003 wrote: &gt; Adlemi, &gt; &gt; You hit the "nail on the head," so to speak, by saying: &gt; &gt; "...the father of this world (Satan) speaks vague and always beat &gt; around bush and if he speaks in my behalf saying I am he, he will &gt; get inflamed and get himself burned." &gt; &gt; If you will notice, participants in this forum after having &gt; humbled themselves like "babes" (Matt. 11:25), they are endowed &gt; with divine knwoledge and wisdom that no longer are they "beating &gt; around the bush," but like "speaker system" we hear from them the &gt; "voice of the Lamb" as if "He is speaking over the microphone" by &gt; citing the "written words of God." [/quote] [/quote]
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Posted: Oct 26, 2005 4:02:17 PM
Adlem, before, I used to shower God with praises (prayer and songs) and love (trying to follow His words with what I understand of the "letter" or literal meaning). I did not realize my hypocrisy until I humbled myself (thanks for the article in this website) when He introduced Himself to me. Now every time I come across the phrase, “I never knew you” in the verses, I cannot hold some tears of joy for having delivered me from pretenses as He saw in the Scribes and Pharisees. Sandie
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Posted: Oct 27, 2005 1:18:21 PM
Subject: John 14:6
The more that we have  to rejoice now in the Lord always for if not with Him, who will be our Good Pastor who will teach us and show us the way leading to the path of righteousness and kingdom of God? Rejoice further that the Lord knows you now and that you are not anymore alienated from the Lord. You do have now all the reasons to shout to the whole world "Hallelujah to the King of KIngs" for you do belong to the chosen ones of the Lord God.   Just do remember always that  the Lord God is the  God of all ages, be it in this world or in heavens, and His name is Jesus Christ.   [b][i]sandra3102 &lt;bibletalk@purechristianity.org&gt;[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Adlem, before, I used to shower God with praises (prayer and songs) and love (trying to follow His words with what I understand of the "letter" or literal meaning). I did not realize my hypocrisy until I humbled myself (thanks for the article in this website) when He introduced Himself to me. Now every time I come across the phrase, &#8220;I never knew you&#8221; in the verses, I cannot hold some tears of joy for having delivered me from pretenses as He saw in the Scribes and Pharisees. Sandie
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