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DESTRUCTION OF WALLS OF JERUSALEM AND BURNING OF GATES

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Posted Nov 29, 2005 at 10:06:51 AM
Subject: DESTRUCTION OF WALLS OF JERUSALEM AND BURNING OF GATES
[color=darkblue]I read the following posting in another Christian Discussion Forum [/color][color=darkblue](EndTimeMessage Forum), but until now no explanation has been made. [i]Neh 2:11 So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days. Neh 2:12 And I arose in the night, I and some few men with me; neither told I any man what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem: neither was there any beast with me, save the beast that I rode upon. Neh 2:13 And I went out BY NIGHT by the gate of the valley, even before the DRAGON WELL, and to the DUNG PORT, and viewed the WALLS OF JERUSALEM, which WERE BROKEN DOWN, and the GATES thereof were CONSUMED WITH FIRE.[/i] May I know God revelation to His chosen believing that the truth in His word is our spiritual food?[/color]
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Posted: Nov 29, 2005 9:20:02 PM
bro. fil,   are you referring to francis chan et. al ( ver luzcano, eddie, etc. ) of the endtime message group? if not, may we know from you their web site? thanks,   adlem [b][i]fil3232003 <bibletalk@purechristianity.org>[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]I read the following posting in another Christian Discussion Forum (EndTimeMessage Forum), but until now no explanation has been made. Neh 2:11 So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days. Neh 2:12 And I arose in the night, I and some few men with me; neither told I any man what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem: neither was there any beast with me, save the beast that I rode upon. Neh 2:13 And I went out BY NIGHT by the gate of the valley, even before the DRAGON WELL, and to the DUNG PORT, and viewed the WALLS OF JERUSALEM, which WERE BROKEN DOWN, and the GATES thereof were CONSUMED WITH FIRE. May I know God revelation to His chosen believing that the truth in His word is our spiritual food? [/quote] [url=http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=36035/*http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/]Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.[/url]
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Posted: Nov 30, 2005 6:14:04 AM
Dear Adlemi, No, somebody else.
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Posted: Nov 30, 2005 10:50:31 AM
thanks bro. fil but would you mind giving us their website? [b][i]fil3232003 <bibletalk@purechristianity.org>[/i][/b] wrote: [quote]Dear Adlemi, No, somebody else. [/quote] [url=http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=36035/*http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/]Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.[/url]
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Posted: Nov 30, 2005 6:41:56 PM
Adlemi, The EndTimeMessage Discussion Forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EndTimeMessageForum/messages
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Posted: Dec 01, 2005 6:51:51 PM
Neh 2:11  So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days.  =============================================== [b]I hope this is the right revelation from the one true God.[/b]     Revelation 21:2 "And I John saw the [b][u]holy city[/u][/b], [u][b]new Jerusalem[/b][/u], [b][u]coming down from God out of heaven, [/u][/b] [b][u]prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.[/u][/b] [b][u][/u][/b]  Isa. 54:5 [b][u]"For thy Maker is thine husband[/u][/b]; the LORD of hosts  is." Ephesians 5:23"[b]For the husband is the head of the wife[/b], even  as [b][u]Christ  is the head of the church: and he is the  saviour of the body[/u][/b]."   Jeremiah 3:14 "[b]Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD[/b]; for [b][u]I am married unto you[/u][/b]: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:   [b]The temple is the church- spiritual babe- little child of God.[/b] [b][/b]  John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.   John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body.   1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?   [b]Nehemiah symbolizes little children of God, whom is a member of Jerusalem (church ), the bride of God, [/b] [b]the chosen of God, the temple of God - travailing in birth for three days - this is the number [/b][b]of days before [/b] [b]God resurrected, [/b][b]to give the promised inheritance - the fullfilment. Jesus (word) + His spirit ( the teacher and [/b] [b]the comforter, [/b][b]the second witness to the [/b][b]truth) that will enable the little children to understand fully the [/b] [b]spiritual word of God.[/b] [b]===============================================[/b] Neh 2:12  And I arose in the night, I and some few men with me; neither told I any man what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem: neither was there any beast with me, save the beast that I rode upon. =============================================== Micah 3:6 Therefore[b][u] night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you[/u][/b], [b][u]that ye shall not divine[/u][/b];[b]and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.[/b]   Acts 2:20 "[url=mk:@MSITStore:C:Documents%20and%20Settingsart.bargaMy%20DocumentsART%20-Documentskjvkjv.chm::/B29C002.htm#V31]The [b]sun shall be turned into darkness[/b], and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the [/url] Lord come:   Psa 84:11  For the [b][u]LORD God[/u][/b] is a [b][u]sun[/u][/b] and [b][u]shield[/u]:[/b] the LORD will give grace and glory…”   Matthew 12:40 "For as [url=mk:@MSITStore:C:Documents%20and%20Settingsart.bargaMy%20DocumentsART%20-Documentskjvkjv.chm::/B32C001.htm#V17][b]Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly[/b];[/url] so shall the [b][u]Son of man be three days [/u][/b] [b][u]and three nights in the heart of the earth. [/u][/b]   Jeremiah 31:33 [b]"[/b][url=mk:@MSITStore:C:Documents and Settingsart.bargaMy DocumentsART -Documentskjvkjv.chm::/B58C008.htm#V10][b]But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, [/b][/url] [b]I will put my law in their inward parts,[/b] and[b][u] write it in their hearts[/u][/b]; and [b]will be their God, and they shall be my people.[/b]  Deuteronomy 32:12 "[u]So[b] the LORD alone did lead him,[/b][/u] and [b]there was no strange god with him[/b]. [b][/b]  [b]Those nights wherein the Lord is not yet glorified. The spiritual babe is travailing and in [/b][b]those darkness his/her soulishness [/b] [b]with all its components (few men) in us is still pulsating. How can children of God tell what [/b][b]has been placed(spiritual law/word) [/b] [b]in their heart by the Lord to any man (natural man) to do and be in Jerusalem(church), [/b][b]if this man the natural man can not [/b] [b]understand the deep spiritual things of the Lord(1 Corinthians 2:14)?[/b] [b][/b]  [b]The Lord is the only one who led him to be in Jerusalem and none else, not even the beast-the dragon/serpent/satan.[/b] =============================================== Neh 2:13  And I went out BY NIGHT by the gate of the valley, even before the DRAGON WELL, and to the DUNG PORT, and viewed the WALLS OF JERUSALEM, which WERE BROKEN DOWN, and the GATES thereof were CONSUMED WITH FIRE. =============================================== Philippians 3:8 "[b]Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord[/b]:[b] for whom [/b] [b]I have suffered the loss of all things[/b], and [b]do count them but[/b] [u][b]dung[/b][/u], [b]that I may win Christ[/b],   John 4:17 "But [b]whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him[/b] a [u][b]well[/b][/u] [b]of water springing up into everlasting life.[/b] [b][/b]  Psalms 122:2 "[b][u]Our feet shall stand within thy gates[/u][/b], O Jerusalem   Psalms 122:7 "[b][u]Peace be within thy walls[/u][/b], and prosperity within thy palaces   Isaiah 5:5 "And now go to; [b]I[/b][b] will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, [/b] [b]and it shall be eaten up;[/b][b]and [u]break down the wall[/u] thereof, and [u]it shall be trodden down[/u]".[/b]   Jeremiah 23:29 [b]"Is not my word like as a[u] fire[/u]? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces[u]?"[/u][/b] [b][u][/u][/b]  1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written, [url=mk:@MSITStore:C:Documents%20and%20Settingsart.bargaMy%20DocumentsART%20-Documentskjvkjv.chm::/B23C029.htm#V14][b]I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent[/b][/url] [b][/b]    [b]During the darkness/night when the light of the Lord is not shining the church, the carnal mind is trying to prevail- enticing the church[/b] [b]to worship and deal with God on his/her intellect and senses. The natural man trying to temp the church to  stand in the rudiments and [/b] [b]doctrines of the world by the [/b][b]use of the literal/[/b][b]physical law in finding and communicating with the Lord. But at the appropriate time of [/b] [b]the Lord, his/her peace(walls) and walk [/b][b](on the way/gate) of old [/b][b]Jerusalem (soulishness) will be destroyed by the spiritual word of Go[/b][b]d(fire).[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Haven't you noticed? The vine(grape) before it can give forth its fruits,  it is pruned, divested of its beautiful leaves and its saps will start dripping [/b] [b]from cuts created through pruning (as if it is crying because its beauty and freshness were taken away from it). After sometimes it will dry, but in just a matter of time new life will be springing and young [/b][b]leaves will start to sprout and little by little it will regain its freshness and will be yielding its fruits.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Little children of God can't you see yourselves in the vineyard of the Lord?   [/b] [b][/b]  [b][/b]  ----- Original Message ----- From: "fil3232003" <bibletalk@purechristianity.org ([email]bibletalk@purechristianity.org[/email])> To: <bibletalk@purechristianity.org ([email]bibletalk@purechristianity.org[/email])> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:54 AM Subject: DESTRUCTION OF WALLS OF JERUSALEM AND BURNING OF GATES [quote] I read the following posting in another Christian Discussion Forum (EndTimeMessage Forum), but until now no explanation has been made. Neh 2:11  So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days. Neh 2:12  And I arose in the night, I and some few men with me; neither told I any man what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem: neither was there any beast with me, save the beast that I rode upon. Neh 2:13  And I went out BY NIGHT by the gate of the valley, even before the DRAGON WELL, and to the DUNG PORT, and viewed the WALLS OF JERUSALEM, which WERE BROKEN DOWN, and the GATES thereof were CONSUMED WITH FIRE. May I know God revelation to His chosen believing that the truth in His word is our spiritual food? [/quote]
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Posted: Dec 05, 2005 7:11:37 AM
[color=darkblue]As supplement to Bro. Art post: This is what I read and I don’t know whether it has relation with the “Destruction of the walls Jerusalem and burning of the gates.” Does this not presuppose that before, Jerusalem indicates Godliness. However, our Lord found religious hypocrisy in the Scribes and Pharisees who did not find the truth with just the “letter” of the word for they were the exponents of it; they called “the Law.” And because of this, they did not even recognize JESUS CHRIST, the promised Messiah. Joh 4:21 “Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, [b][u]nor yet at Jerusalem[/u][/b], worship the Father.” Could this not be the message that, with our Lord Jesus leading, the “walls of Jerusalem” will be “rebuild” where “walls” indicate “salvation” in the following: Isa. 26:1 “In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city, [u][b]Salvation[/b][/u] will God appoint for [u][b]walls[/b][/u] and bulwarks.” Regarding the “burning of the gates,” does not “gates” in the following symbolize real “praise to God”? Isa 60:18 “Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call walls Salvation, and thy [b][u]gates Praise[/u][/b].” Truly so, during the time of our Lord spiritual “rebuilding of the walls” was made by the TRUTH through His precious blood on the cross fulfilling the testament of salvation. Real PRAISE to God, “gates of Praise, no longer is seen as the Pharisees did, but rather through the TRUTH in the word: Psa 56:10 “In God will I praise his word: in the LORD will I praise his word.” Joh 4:23 “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall [b][u]worship the Father in spirit and in truth[/u][/b]: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” What happened during the time of Christ could be replicated from thereon, today, and in the future, if only we follow what our Lord said: Matt. 18:3 “And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Matt. 11:25 “At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” [/color]
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